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Sheleigha
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 Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:30 pm
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Another one of these stories... As much as I love physical itemsn these CDs with voting tickets REALLY need to go to a digital format. Sell the actual CD for thoose that want it, but offer voting through digital purchases.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:56 pm
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Maybe the practice should be discontinued, it's bad for the environment, it can't be good for Japan's image and definitely not the idol fandom's image (this is making idol fans out to be serial dumpers who buy CDs just for tickets to handshake events and not enjoying the songs, I mean there's alternatives in photobooks for example if a fan just likes the idols themselves).
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MoonPhase1
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:47 am
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Serves him right though. He basically now literally paid for all of those CDs he threw away.
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SWAnimefan
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:18 am
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Lesson's learned. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to legally dispose without warranting attention of disapproving eyes.
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Sheleigha
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:26 am
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| Hoppy800 wrote: | | Maybe the practice should be discontinued, it's bad for the environment, it can't be good for Japan's image and definitely not the idol fandom's image (this is making idol fans out to be serial dumpers who buy CDs just for tickets to handshake events and not enjoying the songs, I mean there's alternatives in photobooks for example if a fan just likes the idols themselves). |
Also a good idea. If this is going to be a thing that keeps happening, it's a bad image.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:55 pm
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| SWAnimefan wrote: | | Lesson's learned. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to legally dispose without warranting attention of disapproving eyes. |
I wouldn't have thought that it would be all that hard to find a dumpster to dump them in. And while 585 CDs is a lot to dump in your home trash if you don't have access to a dumpster, worst case, you can throw them away over time. Maybe something about how they deal with trash in Japan makes it hard to legally dispose of the CDs. I don't know. But I would expect that the guy was just being lazy and didn't care about littering. Certainly, I don't feel sorry for him.
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Zalis116
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:28 am
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| Kalessin wrote: |
| SWAnimefan wrote: | | Lesson's learned. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to legally dispose without warranting attention of disapproving eyes. |
I wouldn't have thought that it would be all that hard to find a dumpster to dump them in. And while 585 CDs is a lot to dump in your home trash if you don't have access to a dumpster, worst case, you can throw them away over time. Maybe something about how they deal with trash in Japan makes it hard to legally dispose of the CDs. I don't know. But I would expect that the guy was just being lazy and didn't care about littering. Certainly, I don't feel sorry for him. |
In one of the earlier threads on this story, DJStarstryker pointed out that you'd have to separate out the discs, plastic casing, staples, and printed material in order to conform to proper Japanese trash-sorting procedures. Which, as we know, are Serious Business.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:17 pm
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| Zalis116 wrote: | In one of the earlier threads on this story, DJStarstryker pointed out that you'd have to separate out the discs, plastic casing, staples, and printed material in order to conform to proper Japanese trash-sorting procedures. Which, as we know, are Serious Business. |
You have to separate out the staples? Ouch. I can see separating out the jewel case, the paper insert, and the disc, but in general (not just with CDs), it would be brutal to have to worry about separating out the staples too. If they make you do that, it makes me wonder if you they make you have to separate out the plastic windows that some envelopes have. IMHO, it's annoying enough when they make you care about which recycling number plastic has rather than just throwing all plastic in recycling, let alone having to pick apart your trash in fine detail.
The trend I've seen in the US is in the opposite direction. For instance, my parents used to have to separate out the recyclables into a variety of bins base on what they were (though they could choose to just throw it all away if they wanted to pay more, since throwing out trash cost more than recyclables), whereas now, all of their recyclables go in one place. Most of the places I've lived, the recyclables all go together, and all you have to worry about is trash vs recyclables. And where I am now, they don't even have you separate out the trash and the recyclables. All that's done by the trash folks. I suspect that they got sick of having folks separate out stuff incorrectly and decided to just do it all themselves since they were having to do it anyway.
I certainly don't condone the guy littering like that, but if they're that picky about separating trash, I can see why it would be tempting.
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