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NEWS: Toei Confirms Hugtto! Precure TV Anime for 2018


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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:45 pm Reply with quote
Oh, anime gods, if you can hear me, please grant your humble servant a single wish: Bring back CQC in Precure. I beg of you.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:26 pm Reply with quote
No Punching and no kicking=No watch

I don't like this BPO approved Precure direction Toei is pulling. Time to send them packing and make Precure like it should be.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:31 pm Reply with quote
What's CQC and BPO?
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Crimson Queen Zora



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:47 pm Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
What's CQC and BPO?


CQC is close quarters combat. In the new season they can't punch, kick or hit there foes. So all the fights have little to no impact since the characters are getting hit by Kira Kira energy (which mainly takes the form of different colors of whip cream or chocolate).

That and the season feels very fast paced to a fault.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:52 pm Reply with quote
Hoppy800 wrote:
No Punching and no kicking=No watch

I don't like this BPO approved Precure direction Toei is pulling. Time to send them packing and make Precure like it should be.


MahoGirls and the current season are really popular in Japan, so they have literally no reason to change it now.
I don't think some gaijin who'll download it illegally anyway will have any say in it.
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Togame



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:01 pm Reply with quote
Wtv wrote:
Hoppy800 wrote:
No Punching and no kicking=No watch

I don't like this BPO approved Precure direction Toei is pulling. Time to send them packing and make Precure like it should be.


MahoGirls and the current season are really popular in Japan, so they have literally no reason to change it now.
I don't think some gaijin who'll download it illegally anyway will have any say in it.


Yet neither come even close to huge impact of the original series or fan darling Heartcatch.
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Crimson Queen Zora



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:02 pm Reply with quote
Wtv wrote:
Hoppy800 wrote:
No Punching and no kicking=No watch

I don't like this BPO approved Precure direction Toei is pulling. Time to send them packing and make Precure like it should be.


MahoGirls and the current season are really popular in Japan, so they have literally no reason to change it now.
I don't think some gaijin who'll download it illegally anyway will have any say in it.


But Maho Girls had action in it and the story was pretty good. The action worked because the action felt like they have real force behind them and the character interactions were gold.

"gaijin' don't have a say but if the fights felt heavy and impactful the tension and character moments would have more oomph to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:13 pm Reply with quote
Crimson Queen Zora wrote:

But Maho Girls had action in it and the story was pretty good. The action worked because the action felt like they have real force behind them and the character interactions were gold.

"gaijin' don't have a say but if the fights felt heavy and impactful the tension and character moments would have more oomph to them.


The only "problem" I see with Kira Kira is the fact that fighting for sweets is kinda weird. But I don't really see lack of impact or emotion in the characters stories. It had some os the best characters arcs in the series, like Ichika relationship with her mother.

I read that the producer for Huggto will probably be the same from MahoGirls, so maybe they'll feel similar. I also saw an image with a three girls team, but I don't know if it's official. In the end the difference in tone on Precure series is always given by the ones directing/writing/producing the current season.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:32 pm Reply with quote
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CQC is close quarters combat. In the new season they can't punch, kick or hit there foes.


Seriously? I mean, why cut all of the physical fighting out when that was what made Pretty Cure successful in the first place? Kinda weird to get rid of that when physical fighting is pretty much the show's backbone...or heck, its raison d'etre, at that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:38 pm Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
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CQC is close quarters combat. In the new season they can't punch, kick or hit there foes.


Seriously? I mean, why cut all of the physical fighting out when that was what made Pretty Cure successful in the first place? Kinda weird to get rid of that when physical fighting is pretty much the show's backbone...or heck, its raison d'etre, at that.


According to an interview with a producer, the 3-5 year olds who are the main audience found the sequences in Gopri too intense and upsetting, so they were asked, told, to pull back and tone down the fights and even the designs.

Considering Gopri's series worst sales, its not like they had a reason to ignore what the audience wants.

The Kirakira movie, whose producer is likley to be on Hugtto, said they made the movie to be fun and colorful throughout, unlike previous films that built up to some big climactic fight, again with concerns that for its young audience that it would be too dark and scary. They wanted to entertain the kids, first and foremost.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:43 pm Reply with quote
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The title includes the English word "Hug" with the quotation particle "to," which is used in casual speech when the speaker is resolving to do something.

So would the title translate to something like "Hugging Pretty Cure", then?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:53 am Reply with quote
atram151 wrote:

According to an interview with a producer, the 3-5 year olds who are the main audience found the sequences in Gopri too intense and upsetting, so they were asked, told, to pull back and tone down the fights and even the designs.

Considering Gopri's series worst sales, its not like they had a reason to ignore what the audience wants.

The Kirakira movie, whose producer is likley to be on Hugtto, said they made the movie to be fun and colorful throughout, unlike previous films that built up to some big climactic fight, again with concerns that for its young audience that it would be too dark and scary. They wanted to entertain the kids, first and foremost.

What is said and what really happened sometimes are different things at times, if I were to take a gamble removing CQC in place of more "beam of war" was because of the production side.
They officially say "it's for the sake of children's sensibilities" but I would be less than surprised is if it was more about saving a few yen over the course of a Yearly production to avoid melee based fights that go overdramatic in story boarding.

Considering production is often tight lipped about the details the audience will likely never know the truth and if the viewership ever does it would be long after when no one honestly cares anymore.

The current season simply didn't peak my interest, hopefully some intriguing development in Hug makes it a curiosity to follow for a year.
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:17 am Reply with quote
epicwizard wrote:
So would the title translate to something like "Hugging Pretty Cure", then?

No, I beliebe a Hugto is a type of plush dull that you hug.

As for the lack of CQC in Kira, it was oficially for "not scaring the children". That is a BS excuse because ALL precure so far have had CQC. GoPri did go a little overboard at times, but that would be no reason to remove it, just scale it back down. In fact, Maho did just that and was very well received. No, this is just TOEI doing what TOEI does best: be cheap. Removing CQC lessens costs since just animating the same old beam in a different color is far cheaper. Sadly the overall quality suffers. The battles in Kira a re quite boring and the charatcers are pretty much interchangable while fighting. They all basically have the same attack.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:56 am Reply with quote
Toei is best at caving in to the first little concerns that are raised against them, be it justified or not at all. On the good side, they choose to go back on the changes from time to time. Just to point out a few things about what "soccermoms" complained about, first, they said there should be no "beach episode with girls wearing swimsuits", but that baffling trend ended with GoPri. They also complained about the bare midriffs, and it was removed from time to time, but came back in later series. So bringing back CQC for the next season doesn't seem unlikely at all, I would in fact bet on it coming back. As much as they keep their target audience in mind first and foremost, it's not like they are completely unaware of the "big friends".
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:26 am Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:
epicwizard wrote:
So would the title translate to something like "Hugging Pretty Cure", then?


As for the lack of CQC in Kira, it was oficially for "not scaring the children". That is a BS excuse because ALL precure so far have had CQC. GoPri did go a little overboard at times, but that would be no reason to remove it, just scale it back down. In fact, Maho did just that and was very well received. No, this is just TOEI doing what TOEI does best: be cheap. Removing CQC lessens costs since just animating the same old beam in a different color is far cheaper. Sadly the overall quality suffers. The battles in Kira a re quite boring and the charatcers are pretty much interchangable while fighting. They all basically have the same attack.


The "well all other precure series did it" doesn't make sense when the current audience has maybe seen the last 2-3. Lest we forget, because you seem to all the time, this show is made to sell toys to preschoolers. If your scaring your audience, then their less likely to watch and buy the toys and merch.
Toei doesn't have free license to make any show they want, they have to work with the Asahi and Bandai Toy division who has very strong control over the branding. Budget rarely has anything to do with it, as Precure has a low budget no matter the season, any difference are staff and scheduling.
The improved sales this year after the last couple and after a previous downward trend means they are doing something right. If you don't like it, then maybe you can tell the 4 year old Japanese girls that they're ruining precure for you.
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