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NEWS: Recovery of an MMO Junkie Anime Previews Episode 11 OVA in Video




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relyat08



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:38 pm Reply with quote
I wan... NEED this Box Set.
I can't wait to listen to the drama CD. This kind of show almost always has the best drama CD content. Gosh, Morika's blush is just the most precious thing ever.
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Hope this can get a Second Season Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:59 pm Reply with quote
IG/Signal.MD surely understands that this is going to be an elevated target for piracy, right? I mean they've even geolocked the promo video lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:02 am Reply with quote
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IG/Signal.MD surely understands that this is going to be an elevated target for piracy, right? I mean they've even geolocked the promo video lol.


I think most PVs from Japan are region locked for whatever reason, so it's not uncommon for contributors to ANN to rip the PVs and post them somewhere that's available to US/North American viewers.

As for the PV itself, looks like we're getting a mix of real-world and, what I can only assume, is Moriko's dream world. Moriko has been tasked with the quest to rescue Sakurai-hime from demon lord Koiwai. Joining her are members of her guild (oddly both real-world and in-game versions of themselves), as well as Lily and her own avator, Hayashi. Laughing spoiler[This one is definitely going to be an anime original episode, since there isn't anything remotely like this in the manga]. Seems kinda cracky, but it does look fun. And going by the drama CD's title spoiler[we're going to get something to do with hot springs?]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:12 am Reply with quote
mangaka-chan wrote:
I think most PVs from Japan are region locked for whatever reason


Yeah, good point.

Anyway, I look forward to it.
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So, does this mean that we won't get to watch episode 11 in the U.S., Mexico, South Korea, Australia, or New Zealand?

Also, when will this be available for those in these countries?

Also, does this feel like a ploy to sell BDs and makes me upset that I am paying for a service to watch this show, and then am being told to buy BDs. It's like paying to see a movie at a theater and then, when you are 3/4 through it, being told that you have to not only wait to finish it, but have to pay more money. All this makes it out to be is that physical releases are more important for these companies, and not contracts and streaming rights with companies like Crunchyroll.

The issue I have with this is that not every anime gets a physical release in these countries, while streaming is prioritized. The problem lies that if it isn't available to stream legally and there is no physical release, this causes a market for pirating and a loss of potential profit for the original anime company.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:31 pm Reply with quote
Mune wrote:
So, does this mean that we won't get to watch episode 11 in the U.S., Mexico, South Korea, Australia, or New Zealand?

Also, when will this be available for those in these countries?

Also, does this feel like a ploy to sell BDs and makes me upset that I am paying for a service to watch this show, and then am being told to buy BDs. It's like paying to see a movie at a theater and then, when you are 3/4 through it, being told that you have to not only wait to finish it, but have to pay more money. All this makes it out to be is that physical releases are more important for these companies, and not contracts and streaming rights with companies like Crunchyroll.

The issue I have with this is that not every anime gets a physical release in these countries, while streaming is prioritized. The problem lies that if it isn't available to stream legally and there is no physical release, this causes a market for pirating and a loss of potential profit for the original anime company.


That is almost always how OVAs work. You're not paying for everything connected to a series when you buy a streaming subscription, you're paying for all of the content that the streaming service is able to make available. OVAs like this are usually not part of a standard series streaming contract, so they are not usually available. Crunchyroll has been doing a good job of getting some recent OVAs, but it's still uncommon. And shouldn't be expected.
Also, most of the time, these OVAs are super extraneous content that has little or no impact on the primary plot-line. They are usually episodic side stories, hot spring episodes, or comedy skits. It's not a terribly big deal to miss out on.
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relyat08 wrote:
Mune wrote:
All this makes it out to be is that physical releases are more important for these companies, and not contracts and streaming rights with companies like Crunchyroll.

Also, most of the time, these OVAs are super extraneous content that has little or no impact on the primary plot-line. They are usually episodic side stories, hot spring episodes, or comedy skits. It's not a terribly big deal to miss out on.


Mune you're absolutely right in that the Japanese production companies make most of their money selling physical products, whether that's DVD/BR box sets, manga volumes, drama or soundtrack/single CDs, or merchandise. Streaming licenses are popular in overseas markets, but they don't seem to be a priority in Japan, or at least, not enough money is being made that way to overcome industry inertia about "how things are done".

Pretty sure there was an Answerman column on this in the last year, so you could try pulling that up for more insight.

Relyat08 I think you're wrong about how modern OAVs have been evolving. Certainly they used to be strictly optional, and often packed with fan service, either in terms of adult content, or source content beyond the scope of the original adaptation.

But for at least the last 8-10yrs or so, we've been seeing more of these OAV-only endings, where the TV series ends "one scene short", or "missing piece" OAVs, where some vital character or plot point is only explained in non-broadcast material.

It's just as unsatisfying as the classic "now go read the manga/novel" ending (or "go play the game").
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:29 pm Reply with quote
mandisaw wrote:
relyat08 wrote:
Mune wrote:
All this makes it out to be is that physical releases are more important for these companies, and not contracts and streaming rights with companies like Crunchyroll.

Also, most of the time, these OVAs are super extraneous content that has little or no impact on the primary plot-line. They are usually episodic side stories, hot spring episodes, or comedy skits. It's not a terribly big deal to miss out on.


Mune you're absolutely right in that the Japanese production companies make most of their money selling physical products, whether that's DVD/BR box sets, manga volumes, drama or soundtrack/single CDs, or merchandise. Streaming licenses are popular in overseas markets, but they don't seem to be a priority in Japan, or at least, not enough money is being made that way to overcome industry inertia about "how things are done".

Pretty sure there was an Answerman column on this in the last year, so you could try pulling that up for more insight.


If you factor in merchandise and all of that stuff, yes, that is how they make the majority of their money, but if we're just talking about BD/DVD sets, no. They make up a surprisingly small portion of the income for your average anime these days.

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Relyat08 I think you're wrong about how modern OAVs have been evolving. Certainly they used to be strictly optional, and often packed with fan service, either in terms of adult content, or source content beyond the scope of the original adaptation.

But for at least the last 8-10yrs or so, we've been seeing more of these OAV-only endings, where the TV series ends "one scene short", or "missing piece" OAVs, where some vital character or plot point is only explained in non-broadcast material.

It's just as unsatisfying as the classic "now go read the manga/novel" ending (or "go play the game").


I think you're extrapolating a lot from a few examples. Most OVAs today are still quite extraneous. I've watched many of them. There are important ones occasionally, and those tend to be much more likely to be picked up. In general though, and based on the PV and synopsis for this one, they are not all that necessary.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:48 am Reply with quote
relyat08 wrote:
If you factor in merchandise and all of that stuff, yes, that is how they make the majority of their money, but if we're just talking about BD/DVD sets, no. They make up a surprisingly small portion of the income for your average anime these days.

mandisaw wrote:
Relyat08 I think you're wrong about how modern OAVs have been evolving. Certainly they used to be strictly optional, and often packed with fan service, either in terms of adult content, or source content beyond the scope of the original adaptation.

But for at least the last 8-10yrs or so, we've been seeing more of these OAV-only endings, where the TV series ends "one scene short", or "missing piece" OAVs, where some vital character or plot point is only explained in non-broadcast material.

It's just as unsatisfying as the classic "now go read the manga/novel" ending (or "go play the game").


I think you're extrapolating a lot from a few examples. Most OVAs today are still quite extraneous. I've watched many of them. There are important ones occasionally, and those tend to be much more likely to be picked up. In general though, and based on the PV and synopsis for this one, they are not all that necessary.


The examples may be few, but they are not evenly distributed among genres. For the big tentpole series, like your shonen adventure types, or popular light novel or game adaptations, sure, OAVs haven't changed much from the "bottle episodes" of the past.

But most of what I watch these days are series based on josei & seinen manga (or light novels), or anime-original series for an older audience. Getting another anime season is usually not an option, and in the former case, they're looking to promote manga/novel sales. So the OAVs tend to be stories pulled from popular current/post-anime arcs, to either pull in anime fans, or as fan service for manga readers (or novel readers/game players).

Mind you, this whole OAV as marketing approach tends to fall apart in an overseas market, where the source content is generally unavailable, so there's not much profit motive to bring those OAVs over.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:18 pm Reply with quote
mandisaw wrote:
So the OAVs tend to be stories pulled from popular current/post-anime arcs, to either pull in anime fans, or as fan service for manga readers (or novel readers/game players).


Exactly. And most of them aren't all that important to the main plot. Which is why they can be put into a single episode OVA and bundled with the series BDs. I'm not denying that we get important OVAs sometimes. We are going to get a 4 OVA episode conclusion to the Re:Life anime in the very near future, for example. But the vast majority are still chosen exactly because of how easily they work as fanservice for fans of the series and the source. Based on the synopsis and PV for the MMO Junkie OVA, especially, sounds very much like a one-off story.
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