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leafy sea dragon
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Huh, no one has expressed any resentment in here yet about your name being passed up for some other movie to win it? Then again, if there's any other animated film that would be right up there, it'd be Coco.
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trilaan
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I don't know why Your Name isn't getting as much recog. as it should Stateside. Are we squeamish about it or something? Okay, PROBABLY it's because of the animation stigma still prevalent in the United States that if it's animated it has to be for children or families, not individuals. Well, regardless, I have seen it 6 times myself and when other people have seen it with me they have claimed it to be one of the best films they ever saw(with one even comparing it to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind). At least some of us will give it the attention it deserves. May others continue to discover it as well.
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KH91
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Of course the power of Mega Shinkai wouldn't be able to defy the collective western consciousness.
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Zin5ki
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I may have previously been disposed to express mild umbrage like I did during the Oscar snub, but now that I've actually seen the film itself, I've lost interest in the matter of its further success. It appears that general audiences are simply more tolerant of greatly fantastical tales than I am. |
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Animegomaniac
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No, I've seen Your name..... . Shinkai really needs to enlist the aid of a cowriter or at the very least a producer who'll tell him "no" or at the very least "are you sure you want to tell the story that way?" Zin5ki, the problem with the movie isn't that the tale was fantasy but rather that every plot point was hand waved by using fantasy in order to reach the most pleasing ending to its audience. Less "it's fantasy, don't worry about it", more "it's fantasy so I don't have to explain anything." For people who don't understand the difference, consider that the best fantasy tales are overburdened with explanations as part of their world building. |
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Eddy564
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^ Not necessarily
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A Man named RJ
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Meh. I dont like Your Name. And I have no idea how it made it past "Film critics" when the entire movie could easily have it's plot picked to shreds by the simple question of
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Sure, it's pretty, and well animated but that's all it is: pretty colors. The plot makes no sense, several of the characters are idiots who go undeveloped. The dad character is just a deus ex machina with no personality who we're expected to believe just goes with his daughter's plan because the power of love or something. The insert songs are obnoxious, the film is clearly trying to emotionally manipulate you as opposed to allowing for emotions to naturally come, and go like a well-written narrative would. Fake tension is everywhere, and it's even guilty of a fricking Disney death Critically, Its really not a good movie. and no amount of pretty colors can change that. |
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BadNewsBlues
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......Coco is animated and can be enjoyed by individuals and not simply families you're kind of reaching here.If the movie isn't getting the level of recognition you think it deserves that has more to do with the fact the movie wasn't exactly made to appeal to large audiences that and has nowhere the level of exposure as well...Coco which has the backing of major movie studio known the world over. |
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leafy sea dragon
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That's a good point. Major Hollywood movies get tens of millions of dollars, if not HUNDREDS of millions, in marketing the movie and making sure you know it exists. This is an amount of money that neither the crew of your name. nor FUNimation can hope to afford. Any shouting they're doing will get drowned out by the wide release movies that can shout a lot louder. Instead, it's been making the indie circuits in the United States, and it seems to be doing pretty well on that level. In other words, I'm certain it was frequently snubbed in the United States is because it's been having major trouble getting American moviegoers to know it exists, and in turn, having major trouble getting movie theater chains to even play it.
Based on the various social circles I've been in (hence, this is in no way a definitive description of Americans at large), anime movies tend to get caught between audiences: There are many animation fans in the United States who hate anime for any number of reasons. They'll see animated film from every country but Japan. Essentially, this is a fandom rivalry, kind of like how Star Trek and Star Wars fans used to be at each other's throats, how Sonic fans and Bronies are in the present, or the Console Wars in general, considering I see plenty of resentment directed at western animation right here on this site's forums. (It has been tough being a fan of both western animation and of anime, because I've been chased out of groups on both sides for liking what they hate.) Similarly, there are a lot of movie fans and foreign film fans I've known who will gladly watch animated movies and movies from Japan, but rarely animated movies from Japan. From what I've gathered speaking with them, it's because there is a stigma (related to but slightly different from the Animation Age Ghetto) that all anime is like Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Sailor Moon, children's TV shows meant to sell toys, and they'll assume that ANY anime movie must be the sort of mind-numbing-to-adults as Minions or Smurfs. Similarly, they tend to be quite hesitant to watch an animated film unless it's Pixar or it's quite clearly not meant for kids, like Fritz the Cat or Persepolis. But I think all in all, the main hurdle is that there isn't anyone in these groups willing to take the first plunge, and more often than not, when they do go with me to watch something like Summer Wars or Tokyo Godfathers, they wind up really enjoying it. |
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Kadmos1
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