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dragonrider_cody



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:49 am Reply with quote
I think you meant to say “salaried” in the second question, when referring to studio production staff. Being full time doesn’t automatically exempt you from overtime regulations, but being a salaried employee does as long as you make over a set amount per year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:04 pm Reply with quote
dragonrider_cody wrote:
I think you meant to say “salaried” in the second question, when referring to studio production staff. Being full time doesn’t automatically exempt you from overtime regulations, but being a salaried employee does as long as you make over a set amount per year.


This... Employees on hourly wages have strict time limits, but salaried employees do not. Full-time or part-time has no real relevance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:06 pm Reply with quote
There once times (during my chuunibyou phase Laughing) when I was so into gothic anime that I have theory about many elements in Alice in Wonderland that clicks with otaku taste:
- Little girl as heroine
- Adventure in another world (I'm not the only one who jokes about Alice being the first isekai)
- Magical place (unpredictable scenes, bizarre objects)
- Weirds characters (the youkai-like theory)
- Victorian setting (as well as attraction to golden hair, blue eyes and of course, gothic lolita outfit)
- The name Alice can be transliterated in katakana to Arisu and it still sounds smooth/cool/easy to spell
- The "final boss" (in the Wonderland, not Looking Glass) is a female character (Queen of Heart)
In short: a loli ventures into wtf world, meet wtf creatures, and battle The Queen in the climax. This is like a perfect template that you can tweak/play with your imagination and the result would still cool.
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Scalfin



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 pm Reply with quote
What about Tzum Gedalia? That surely has to be a basic part of the Japanese annual cycle.
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Dark_Sage



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:12 pm Reply with quote
So scanlations killed manga and fansubs killed anime. What's killing ANN, Answerman? Anime blogs?
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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:29 pm Reply with quote
Neohybrid_kai wrote:
There once times (during my chuunibyou phase Laughing) when I was so into gothic anime that I have theory about many elements in Alice in Wonderland that clicks with otaku taste:
- Little girl as heroine
- Adventure in another world (I'm not the only one who jokes about Alice being the first isekai)
- Magical place (unpredictable scenes, bizarre objects)
- Weirds characters (the youkai-like theory)
- Victorian setting (as well as attraction to golden hair, blue eyes and of course, gothic lolita outfit)


Aside from the preoccupation with cats, the Japanese understanding of Alice pretty well begins and ends at the Victorian heroine who drinks tea, magical things happening, and that her ploofy Victorian dress usually has the loli-goth stripey socks to go with it.
Otherwise, they don't quite get the point--They know magical things happen to her, but they seem to be under the impression she's doing them herself.

Which is why when we hear "Alice" used as a metaphoric noun in anime, it's usually in reference to some mutant magical ability, or the seemingly innocent waif who can use it.

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Halloween, meanwhile, has really only become a thing in the last ten years or so. Japan already has a festival -- Obon -- that's about spirits of the dead, and it's in the end of summer.


And the increasing private joke in Japanese media, along with anime, is that nobody in Japan has the faintest idea of what Halloween is. News programs might ask folks on the street to explain it and get ten different answers.
Like Christmas, it's another crossover holiday they feel they should celebrate because everyone else does and Western media and companies import it, but since Halloween, like Easter, has its roots in Catholic and English-pagan traditions, there's nothing for their culture to latch onto--And they just go through the motions, like the cake, date and KFC bucket every Christmas.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:24 pm Reply with quote
EricJ2 wrote:


Aside from the preoccupation with cats, the Japanese understanding of Alice pretty well begins and ends at the Victorian heroine who drinks tea, magical things happening, and that her ploofy Victorian dress usually has the loli-goth stripey socks to go with it.
Otherwise, they don't quite get the point--They know magical things happen to her, but they seem to be under the impression she's doing them herself.

Which is why when we hear "Alice" used as a metaphoric noun in anime, it's usually in reference to some mutant magical ability, or the seemingly innocent waif who can use it.

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That is interesting. That might help answer my question as to why Alice is one of the high-ranking Personas in the Death Arcana in the Persona games.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:37 pm Reply with quote
Dark_Sage wrote:
So scanlations killed manga and fansubs killed anime. What's killing ANN, Answerman? Anime blogs?


Youtube, hense all the anti-Youtube hit pieces you see from various news sites. Like how websites killed newspapers, people are moving from websites to video news and discussions. New media killed old media, and then will eventually become old media themselves, until the next thing comes along. Apparenfly Twitch is starting to kill YouTube now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:40 pm Reply with quote
Neohybrid_kai wrote:
- The "final boss" (in the Wonderland, not Looking Glass) is a female character (Queen of Heart)
In short: a loli ventures into wtf world, meet wtf creatures, and battle The Queen in the climax.


Video games, goth art and bad Tim Burton movies (she "battles" the Queen?--Wasn't there a trial scene?) have made too much of the Queen of Hearts in the Alice story.
But the whole climax of the book was basically Carroll using the same episodic gimmick he later used in "Through the Looking Glass", ie. that Alice was wandering around running into nursery-rhyme characters in progress, not unlike Kermit the Frog for Sesame Street News.
And just as in Looking Glass, where she meets Humpty Dumpty sitting on the wall or the Lion & the Unicorn fighting for the crown, in Wonderland, she happens to meet the Queen of Hearts who made some tarts, all on a summer's day.

(And as the Griffin points out, it's all her fancy, that, and they never executes nobody, as everyone pretty much ignores the Queen's execution orders behind her back, and the King quickly pardons everyone immediately after.)
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Neohybrid_kai wrote:
There once times (during my chuunibyou phase Laughing) when I was so into gothic anime that I have theory about many elements in Alice in Wonderland that clicks with otaku taste:
- Little girl as heroine
- Adventure in another world (I'm not the only one who jokes about Alice being the first isekai)
- Magical place (unpredictable scenes, bizarre objects)
- Weirds characters (the youkai-like theory)
- Victorian setting (as well as attraction to golden hair, blue eyes and of course, gothic lolita outfit)
- The name Alice can be transliterated in katakana to Arisu and it still sounds smooth/cool/easy to spell
- The "final boss" (in the Wonderland, not Looking Glass) is a female character (Queen of Heart)
In short: a loli ventures into wtf world, meet wtf creatures, and battle The Queen in the climax. This is like a perfect template that you can tweak/play with your imagination and the result would still cool.
Oh you beat me to it, though for me it only just clicked after reading this Answerman. The only difference is I wouldn't of said Victorian setting, since when was that big with Otakus(the era, not just the dress wear)
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Sakagami Tomoyo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:20 pm Reply with quote
Neohybrid_kai wrote:
There once times (during my chuunibyou phase Laughing) when I was so into gothic anime that I have theory about many elements in Alice in Wonderland that clicks with otaku taste:
- Little girl as heroine
- Adventure in another world (I'm not the only one who jokes about Alice being the first isekai)
- Magical place (unpredictable scenes, bizarre objects)
- Weirds characters (the youkai-like theory)
- Victorian setting (as well as attraction to golden hair, blue eyes and of course, gothic lolita outfit)
- The name Alice can be transliterated in katakana to Arisu and it still sounds smooth/cool/easy to spell
- The "final boss" (in the Wonderland, not Looking Glass) is a female character (Queen of Heart)
In short: a loli ventures into wtf world, meet wtf creatures, and battle The Queen in the climax. This is like a perfect template that you can tweak/play with your imagination and the result would still cool.

Not a bad theory, though I'd say it less clicks with otaku tastes and more was one of the major influences in shaping it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:32 pm Reply with quote
I don't think Shayne realized just how inward-looking his Easter question was. There's no uniformity across cultures about how it's celebrated; quite a few cultures use eggs in various capacities, but many don't use them at all. And that's just the starting point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:18 am Reply with quote
What's interesting is that stores in Japan go absolutely overboard in decorating for Halloween - the same as Australia does, but, also like Australia, no one actually celebrates it outside maybe having a 'halloween party' and enjoying uploading halloween fanart to Pixiv, and buying some of the pumpkin or ghost shaped cakes you tend to find. Recently I've seen some easter stuff here too, but only egg and rabbit motifs.

I think the halloween 'aesthetic' is actually pretty popular in anime - stuff like Soul Eater and even D.Gray-man use what I'd describe as that. Numerous times I have seen official art of characters dressed in halloween costumes too. But an anime 'about' halloween...I dont even know what it'd actually be about.
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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:49 am Reply with quote
championferret wrote:
What's interesting is that stores in Japan go absolutely overboard in decorating for Halloween - the same as Australia does, but, also like Australia, no one actually celebrates it outside maybe having a 'halloween party' and enjoying uploading halloween fanart to Pixiv, and buying some of the pumpkin or ghost shaped cakes you tend to find. Recently I've seen some easter stuff here too, but only egg and rabbit motifs.


Halloween is very unpopular in heavily Catholic countries, not only since it makes demons and ghosts more attractive to the kiddies, but because it takes attention away from the more Catholic-calendar All Saint's Day on Nov. 1, the day Halloween was retro-fitted to try and play second-fiddle to.
France at one point tried to wipe it off the calendar and replace it with "Gaul's New Year", and recent marketing pushes have doubled down trying to merchandise some equal time for Mexico's less scary and more colorful and religious Dia de los Muertos up north. (Yes, the Pixar movie's pretty good.)

...But that's in countries where they DO know what it is. As for Australia, with its English roots, probably just fell out of fashion with nobody to explain it. At least we have John Carpenter and Charlie Brown to watch on disk every year.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:21 am Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
I don't think Shayne realized just how inward-looking his Easter question was. There's no uniformity across cultures about how it's celebrated; quite a few cultures use eggs in various capacities, but many don't use them at all. And that's just the starting point.

I was mildly surprised he didn't ask about Independence Day or Thanksgiving while he was at it.
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