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REVIEW: Yuri!!! on ICE BD+DVD


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kinghumanity



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:44 am Reply with quote
Giant eyeroll

There really, really, really was nothing too special with YOI. It has decent visual quality that declined towards the end of the show, a generic sports show formula, a generic romance plot, and generic themes that are dime a dozen in similar sports shows.

In fact, if the romance was heterosexual, we would have forgotten the show by now. Last year's Crunchyroll awards were a joke.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:14 pm Reply with quote
Have they redone some of the skating sequence? Some of them in the middle and a few at the end were obviously stretching the budget (I particularly remember a sequence were a skater won and everyone was praising how great it was whereas the actual sequence was off model and very stiff/mechanical).

Personally I really liked the show, but seemingly for completely different reason. I actually was a bit disappointed by the LGBT stuff since the show never actually acknowledge that gay couple (cutting kiss sequence that are never mentioned by anyone ever again and so on). The skating sequence were also somewhat disappointing, like I wrote above with some being pretty terrible imo (Russian Yuri had some spectacular spaghettification), a lot of re use content and the strange decision to animate every sequence for every competition (I'll take 3 great sequence over 6 one (2 great, 2 meh, 2 bad) any day).

But I loved that we finally got a show were the main character were professional at the height of there carer whose struggle aren't the usual "you have to try harder!!" or easy platitude like that. And while I hark on the skatting animation, when it was good it was amazing, plus I love skating (shootout to the amazing Olympic Japanese team performance).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:17 pm Reply with quote
I was really happy to finally get this set. I do love this series a lot, warts and all (though honestly, there aren't a whole lot of warts aside from the cast being a bit too big for a 12-episode anime and the animation quality dropping in later episodes). It was pretty ambitious to make an anime about figure skating that actually bothered to animate so many different programs, and though the animation may not have stuck all its landings perfectly, there were still other great elements the anime had that really made me love it when it was airing and still make me love it now.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:34 pm Reply with quote
kinghumanity wrote:
Giant eyeroll

There really, really, really was nothing too special with YOI. It has decent visual quality that declined towards the end of the show, a generic sports show formula, a generic romance plot, and generic themes that are dime a dozen in similar sports shows.

In fact, if the romance was heterosexual, we would have forgotten the show by now. Last year's Crunchyroll awards were a joke.

Oh, boo-f**king-hoo. Edited. If you think anime is ruined because of one little show getting a great review on this site, I got some news for ya, pal. Anime has been playing that same old heteronormative routine since back in the day and I’m glad SOME PEOPLE have the guts to break the chain with new shows. Nothing you say will change otherwise. Edited.

Removed some insults. --willag
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Crisha
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:09 pm Reply with quote
All right, folks, let's avoid insulting each other's opinions.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:17 pm Reply with quote
@kinghumanity (and anyone who keeps bringing up the 2016 Crunchyroll Awards) Dude...why?

Looking back, YOI will be important for two reasons: it proves that fangirls and fujoshi's (and LGBT fans) have deep pockets and it's one of the most mainstream anime I have ever seen directed by a woman.

There simply is nothing quite like Yuri on Ice and I am truly grateful that this has given fans all over the world the opportunity to enjoy an optimistic portrayal of an LGBT+ couple, an emotional protagonist whom many people felt inspired by, and a diverse cast (personally I think they needed more screen time or at least a mini series to explore them more because they're so fun).


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It does not take place in a fanciful snowglobe where gold medals and wedding rings solve our hero's problems. Instead, love and skating are intertwined as lifelong efforts against the true source of conflict in each character's incredibly personal journey: themselves.
Which is why I'm still surprised that the show ended in such a positive way. I was so certain that Sayo would go with "Alright, no Disney ending for you. Let's split them up" or, if it was more cynical, a downer ending with Victor revealed as a total jackass like Hiroshi from Michiko to Hatchin.

Instead, it's believable yet optimistic about the future for everyone: Yuri growing more as a sportsman and more open to those he cares about, Victor not having to sacrifice intimacy with his skating legacy, and Yuuri becoming more emotionally/mentally stable as an adult and professional athlete.

I knew Jacob would eloquently point out what makes YOI so irresistible and, dare I say, historical! Hopefully that the film project will conclude the few remaining plot threads from the series or give me my darn hamster selfie musical on ice!! Please, I want to see Phichit, Seung-Gil, Yurio, and Yuuri belly dance as cute fluffy animals!! ;w;
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Angel M Cazares



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:23 pm Reply with quote
This anime is kind of hard for me to appraise. I was pleased by the first third of the show when it looked like a potentially great coming of age of story. But then the premise changed. I found the gay romance aspect refreshing, but I kind of hate Yuri on Ice for becoming a formulaic sports show.

I appreciate the ambition in YOI, but the execution and decision to make it a sports show kept it from greatness in my opinion.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:25 pm Reply with quote
I saw an A- grade for animation and couldn't stop laughing. I won't argue anything about characters, story, or overall art design, but the animation is sorely lacking and an obvious low-point for the series. Guess it just wasn't feasible for such a tour de force to get a 'B' on any of its facets.
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The show is not perfect, and I'm still disappointed some by the last 2 episodes (Yuuri not getting gold; cramming too much into the episodes that make the emotional moments feel too rushed and anti-climatic; the bullshit, unrealistic scores given to Yurio's and JJ's GPF skates which makes their podium placements even more frustrating) and the choice to fully animate Yurio's Welcome to the Madness but not Yuuri and Victor's pair skate. Honestly, I have an issue overall with how much Yurio is being shoved into the canon and official art post-season 1 to create the "podium family" and make him a 3rd main character, when he was only ever a secondary character in my eyes (more important than other secondary characters, but still only secondary). Yuuri and Victor are what drew me to the show, not the angry teen that's suddenly shoved alongside the main couple like a sore thumb in every piece of official art.

But I digress. I don't have an issue with people liking him or having him be their favorite character. He actually didn't bother me when I watched the show (up until the unrealistic scoring at the GPF). It's all the stuff afterwards that started bothering me, and it's why I've spent more money on fan merchandise than official merchandise.

I am very pleased with Funimation's choice of artwork for the limited release, because Yuuri and Victor are the main focus. They chose the perfect box artwork and I love the cracked ice appearance; the bds/dvds only have Victor and Yuuri on them; at least one of the art cards was only Yuuri/Victor; and the art book has a good selection of art and interviews.

Despite all of my complaints, it's still my #2 favorite anime (for having a sympathetic main character that struggles with anxiety; for having a positive LGBT+ relationship that didn't just fall under every yaoi/BL trope I've come to dislike; for focusing on figure skating). I've become so invested in the fandom and characters.


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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:53 pm Reply with quote
Does the limited edition talk about Kubo at AnimeFest last year? I would buy it just to see a rehash of the final day's "Hostage Walk 2017" when the police escorted us to the autograph section. Or maybe video of cops controlling what was a packed but orderly crowd the day before. Such happy memories.

I don't know if I would paint this series as being important in the context of what was going on politically in the US at the time. Was it a good series? Yeah, it had its moments. And it did have its flaws. But I didn't view the series as my sole reason for getting out of bed any more than I do the new CCS, Osomatsu-san or any other series I might be watching. Besides, almost half of the country were pretty pleased by the results of the 2016 election, and I'm sure there were at least a couple of YOI fans among them.

I sorta wonder if the grading for this particular release was partially biased because the author seems to be a YOI fan. I mean, giving the animation an A-? That's being really generous in the context of some of the later episodes.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:05 pm Reply with quote
kinghumanity wrote:
Last year's Crunchyroll awards were a joke.


Considering the Crunchroll awards are just a popularity contest, it's kind of naive to expect the third highest-selling physical media anime release of the 21st century to not get a bunch of votes. Not really seeing the controversy.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:09 pm Reply with quote
My opinion on this show hasn't really changed. Fantastic music, very impressive animation. I had been excited to see an ice skating anime ever since the very emotional ice skating sequence in Death Parade. The story on the other hand is pretty lackluster in my opinion. I think the romance portrayed in the series is very unbalanced, and thus hard to root for. Regardless of the circumstances (heterosexual or homosexual doesn't really factor into this) getting romantically involved with a teacher, coach, or anybody who you idolize is not a good basis for a health relationship. To really love someone you have to start from a position of seeing each other as equals. Honestly it felt to me like Victor was just using Yuri's infatuation with him to manipulate him into improving his skill and passion for skating. Especially in the beginning.

So, I'd describe it as a great show that was fun to watch but had a story I don't think is very good. There's just not a lot to it.
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Terrible90sDub



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Sometimes when I read articles, reviews, or comments about Yuri on Ice!!! I feel like I saw a completely different anime. I should probably preface this by saying that I'm queer, so the "people only want to bash LGBT anime or fujoshi" thing doesn't apply here, and was actually one of the reasons I'm so... meh about it, as I only watched it after hearing all the praise for a LGBT relationship and had a "that's it?" reaction.

Sections of the ice skating were enjoyable, especially when it was focusing on Yuri's stress, but parts of their relationship did feel like it was falling back on old tropes to me. Victor can be amusing but isn't really that deep of a character, and I can think of at least one side character who made my head hit the desk. I'd personally rather rewatch No. 6, Samurai Flamenco, or the third Evangelion movie when it comes to the relationship aspect. Or, honestly, even several more "ambiguous" gay relationships with a similar setup that were nonetheless more interesting relationships for me to watch (and seemed more supportive).

I can appreciate how it has become such a hit, and I do hope it shows that having your leads be in a gay relationship can sell just as well, or even better, than other anime, but how it gets treated like one of the best anime and pairings ever leaves me scratching my head.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:42 pm Reply with quote
kinghumanity wrote:

In fact, if the romance was heterosexual, we would have forgotten the show by now. Last year's Crunchyroll awards were a joke.


Ah, there it is, the real cause of your rage - the fact that your favorite animu lost a silly popularity contest. I love the anime community, the discussions we can have, the recommendations and analyzes people bring to the table, I really do, but the immaturity of some of the people who refuse to stop throwing hissy fits because of a stupid popularity contest that took place over a year ago will never stop baffling me. Is this how full grown adults behave?
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Cutiebunny wrote:
I sorta wonder if the grading for this particular release was partially biased because the author seems to be a YOI fan. I mean, giving the animation an A-? That's being really generous in the context of some of the later episodes.

This tumblr page (http://kukapanda.tumblr.com/tagged/*yoicomparison) shows some side-by-side gifs comparing some of the changes made to the physical release vs. the broadcast. Janky, off-scale artwork was fixed, more detail was provided in some skating routines (like Phichit's in eps 6 and 7). It never quite gets up to the level of episode 1, but there's some clear improvements. Whether you consider it an A- or not is up to you, and I guess it depends a lot on what you're comparing it against.
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