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NEWS: Crunchyroll Manga to No Longer Offer Catalog Chapters of Kodansha Titles


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LegitPancake



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:15 pm Reply with quote
This really puts their manga service to death in all honesty (though it was never really alive anyways). Glad I was able to read many of these without having to buy them individually. Maybe Kodansha felt their sales were being negatively affected by this or something.
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GoldCrusader



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:25 pm Reply with quote
LegitPancake wrote:
This really puts their manga service to death in all honesty (though it was never really alive anyways). Glad I was able to read many of these without having to buy them individually. Maybe Kodansha felt their sales were being negatively affected by this or something.

I mean ANN forgot to add one important info from that announcement for some weird reason. Last paragraph from their announcement.

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Not all is about manga titles moving to ebooks though; we are also working on a new batch of Kodansha simulpub manga to be added to the service soon, so be sure to check back for more new additions to the Crunchyroll Manga library!


So yea. Some titlea out and some titles to come. This should definitely be added.
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7PhoenixAshes



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:53 pm Reply with quote
Nooooooo!
Well, looks it like I'm going to have spend the next half-month reading all the series I've never gotten around to reading.
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Cerceaux



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:56 pm Reply with quote
Yikes. Time for me to hurry up and finish Princess Jellyfish.
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Paulo27



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:57 pm Reply with quote
Manga thing clearly isn't working out for CR it seems.
From what I saw, it was all because of somewhat lackluster catalog (and non-existent now), constantly delayed chapters, and poor community support around the manga section.
They really should be trying to strike deals with more publishers to offer already complete series and whatnot there, not entirely sure how many would be interested really since there's not that much room for profit from this model but maybe older manga that's not seeing many digital sales these days could help liven it up a bit.
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Animepokegirl89



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:03 pm Reply with quote
Crunchyroll still has yet to put out the final volume to Princess Jellyfish though. I've been waiting forever to finish it. Now I can't, unless I buy the physical copy?
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#854626



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:09 pm Reply with quote
manga is getting more popular in the west but its still not as popular in japan i guess. here in america, i think people just get into manga to get past ongoing anime. thats why berserk and tokyo ghoul fans get so mad when they figure out how much better the story in the manga is. some series like attack on titan and my hero academia you basically dont even need to read the manga, but i think even manga readers prefer it that way. if it aint broke, dont fix it.
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CatSword



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:27 pm Reply with quote
Damn. I wanted to read some of those - major reason why I was planning to pay for CR instead of VRV (when I manage to land a job).

Guess I can try to snag a guest pass and read as much as possible.
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Sheleigha



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:14 am Reply with quote
There's so much potential in the app, but yeahhhh they need more partners :/ Only reading a couple things right now, but I think they are all Square Enix published. The selection is going to be VERY barren after this, so I do hope they can fill the gaps (and then some!)
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brynhild



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:44 am Reply with quote
fudge kodansha honestly
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UncleDrew



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:19 am Reply with quote
Pardon me but i don't know what a catalog manga is, does this even effect their sales? From what i get they are not removing some series but they are moving them somewhere else.
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#879909



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:24 am Reply with quote
Pardon me but i dont know what is a catalong manga means. Does this even effect their sales? İ mean from what i get old chapters of series are moving to another place which is still avalaible to buy.
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Wrangler



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:51 pm Reply with quote
I'm not sure what circumstances why they no longer will allow CR to carry chapter based releases of Kodansha published mangas, but i think this is a blow to Western readers.

Not everyone wants download books i think, but wow. Is Kodansha making access to their stuff exclusive to a certain venue or something? Lordy, annoucement bad news for some readers including me.


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nargun



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:25 pm Reply with quote
#879909 wrote:
Pardon me but i dont know what is a catalong manga means. Does this even effect their sales? İ mean from what i get old chapters of series are moving to another place which is still avalaible to buy.


We can work this out! I know nothing about Crunchyroll's model, btw, which

"Crunchyroll announced on Friday that Kodansha manga titles that have ended serialization will be removed from its manga section on February 28. After this time, the titles will only be available for purchase as eBooks from the Crunchyroll Manga store."

There are two things being talked about here: a "manga section" and an "manga store"; things in the "manga store" have to be purchased as ebooks. [if you talk about A and B, and say that B has property X, normally that means that A doesn't have property X. "Implication"; this is the area of linguistics known as "pragmatics". So we can presume that things in the "manga section" aren't purchased as ebooks and -- probably -- aren't directly purchased at all]

"In addition, Crunchyroll announced that it will no longer offer catalog chapters for most ongoing Kodansha titles beginning on March 1. The older chapters will be available through the eBook store only, but the newest chapters will still be available to Crunchyroll members. The following titles will be affected:"

Now. We don't know for sure that the "catalogue chapters" is the same thing as the "manga section", or that the "ebook store" is the same thing as the "manga store", but there's no definitive evidence they're different either, and it makes sense that they are the same.

Putting the pieces together, we get something akin to:
+ Crunchyroll used to put all the chapters of an ongoing manga on its "manga section", where -- presumably -- subscribers or what-have-you could read it for no additional cost
+ Going forward, only recent chapters will be listed there, and will be available for read by subscribers
+ because a completed manga has no recent chapters, there will be no chapters in the manga section.
+ everything will be available for purchase as an ebook, whether recent or not, and whether completed or not.

There's some doubt and gaps, but it's a good working framework; if you get more information you can update it.

[this is how you read news stories you don't understand: you presume that the person writing the article is trying to tell you stuff but that they might not have written it to target your current exact knowledge. You fill in the gaps by trial-fitting hypotheses about the shape of the bits you don't know. It's like a jigsaw; the article will describe how some pieces are linked together, but fitting them into the big picture -- ha! -- is trial-and-error.]
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ajr



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:43 am Reply with quote
Looks like a number of the licenses they signed are finally lapsing. I don't know what the terms were, but it's apparent to me that CR manga "flopped" relatively early out of the gate; they just didn't have much at all in the way of new titles.
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