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danpmss
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Anyone who read the visual novel knows just how much they absolutely ruined the whole story in this adaptation. B sounds way too generous, even Umineko was better adapted than what we got here.
A D- for story would be generous enough, and if you don't think so, take a look at the source material. That would change your mind for good and open your eyes for much bigger problems with this adaptation an anime-only viewer wouldn't realize. I actually feel bad for anime-only viewers, this anime is like receiving apoilers for a great thing accidentally, in a very abridged way. |
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Takkun4343
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^ Someone sure sounds salty.
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Mhora
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I have genuinly enjoyed all the anime adaptations of the Science Adventure series, but this one was godawful on most levels. Try again.
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Key
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Care to elaborate on this, with appropriate spoiler tags? I read summaries of the VN while preparing this review (I haven't played it myself) and thought the series seemed to adequately hit the main points based on that. |
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Feyster
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That's the issue right there. You expect simply cause it hit the main plot points that it's good but that's far from it. The game is well over 8 hours long, full of indepth character analysis, time to get to know the cast, the feeling if dread piling up, intense scenes of not only drama but full on terror. The game is downright terrifying in quite a lot of places and the way the story is told and paced is some of it's best aspects, along with how you come to learn more about the characters and who they are and why they act the way they do. Everything in the Visual Novel is a proper buildup to a great ending. Which is ruined in the anime due to it's fast nature, it's skipping of character interactions and some plot points, the fact that it skimped out on some explanations and the fact it tried to combine 2 routes together which just made it even worse. Not only does it spoil the true ending with the OVA but it also spoils Nono's route, which was told so much better in the actual game. Her twist was amazing. It's the same issue as Umineko. Umineko tried cramming in around 40-50 hours of dialogue and story into a 26 episode anime. And it STILL failed badly. Then you have Chaos;Child, trying to fit 50 to even 80 hours of playtime (depending on your reading speed)...in a 12-13 episode story? with each episode being only around 23-24 minutes long? I think you can see WHY there's a huge problem and you can realise how BAD this adaptation is of one of, if not the best, of the Sci-Adv series of Visual Novels. |
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Key
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What you state are complaints I hear very commonly about VN adaptations.
But here's the thing: this format is not VN. It doesn't have dozens of hours to lay out super-complex characterizations or to delve into the minutiae of every little inter-character communication. VNs are written with that excruciating detail because a) they know their audience expects it, b) they can afford to stretch it out, and c) length can actually be a selling point. That's not the case with anime, which by dint of practical necessity must tell a more compact and concise tale. Hence a lot of content will inevitably have to be cut out in any adaptation. Because of that, complaining about cuts being made is rather pointless. (You see a similar process, though not as extreme, when books are adapted into movies.) The primary considerations should always be about whether or not what's left captures the core essence of the overall story and its characters and whether or not it provides enough details so that someone who isn't familiar with the source material can understand what's going on. Those who want all of the extra details are better off just sticking with the VN because the anime version will probably never fully satisfy them. While I haven't read this particular VN, I have read numerous others. Based on my experiences with those, a straight, obsessively-detailed anime adaptation of any of them would make for a damn boring view. We get enough complaints about "talking heads" in anime as it is, and straight adaptations would only make that problem 10x worse. So again, I come back to the question: what specific details do VN readers feel are lacking here which makes this story intolerable in anime form? |
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
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I mean, the primary problem with the Umineko anime is that it made the core mystery pretty much unsolvable by contradicting rules established in the game. To say nothing of the numerous other issues which came about because it's obvious the anime staff really didn't understand that Umineko was *not* Higurashi and should not be given the same treatment i.e putting in a bunch of wacky, crazy faces and calling it a day (and one could argue that the Higurashi anime missed the mark on that as well). But criticizing an adaptation because it just can't afford to fit absolutely everything in there is foolish. I saw the same thing from fans of the Re:Zero light novels and as someone who has been keeping up with them recently, while I can say I wish certain scenes were kept in, it is an absolute fact that some liberties *need* to be taken in order to keep a manageable pace. There's no debate on this. |
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pachy_boy
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I would imagine that it was supposed to make us think "there's something secretly ominous about her, isn't there?" only to make us realize we were fooled all along and she was exactly what she appeared to be--which is all part of the multitude of twists found in this story. Like with Chaos;Head, I have never checked out the visual novel for this series, and I never will get around to the visual novel. I could only ever judge both animes based on their own merit, and I have to say they are both underappreciated--they told their stories and I followed them just fine. Granted Child is far more grim than Head, but I was hooked all the way to the end. I just bought the blu-ray, and am glad to read from Theron's review that it includes the OVA, because the TV ending definitely felt rather blunt. |
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