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NEWS: Fireworks Anime Film Earns US$522,600 in U.S. Theaters




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BlueRex666



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:07 pm Reply with quote
I'm sad that I'm remided how little other people in the West don't even give anime movies a passing glance.

Oh well, I look forward (hopefully) to a home media release! Wink (He says still wishing someone would license A Silent Voice already! Evil or Very Mad )
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It's not just anime...
In general animated films that are NOT Disney or Pixar (or DreamWorks) which don't follow the princess formula or road trip/buddy formula just don't get attention from audiences. They are aimed at little kids and/or families because that's been the stable theatrical audience for animated features since forever in the West. That has not changed in over 80 years despite on-and-off attempts to broaden the appeal of animation in the West and tackle different subjects and genres.
On TV, there's more variety BUT animation is still generally considered a kids' thing, even the better-written action/adventure series are aimed at kids. Only Fox has had success with "big kids" animation and those are all sitcoms, it's the safest format to do "more adult" topics and even then it's sophomoric humor and less satire. I wouldn't call Family Guy, American Dad, and or The Simpsons for the past 18 years brilliant satire!

They've tried to break Disney's formulas a few times but those films have generally been bombs. It also hasn't helped that the films that don't follow the general formula have been mostly piss-poor efforts.
Treasure Planet, Titan AE (one of the worst animated science fiction films I've seen), and most of Bluth's films and Bakshi's films have not followed Disney formulas -- and they were colossal bombs in most cases. They've tried these things at least 20 times. There's perhaps 5 "adult" or "serious" animated films that were hits and only one is still remembered today and even that's a comedy -- Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

In the West, you're supposed to be out of the "animation phase" by the time you become a teenager. There's an unwritten rule that only geeks and nerds keep following this stuff after a period of time. It's short-sighted but it's the general rule.
things past your early teens. It's very rare for me to go to a theater screening an anime feature and have more than 20 people tops watching that film along with me -- and that's in a major American market that has state university with over 50,000 students!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:14 am Reply with quote
BlueRex666 wrote:
I'm sad that I'm remided how little other people in the West don't even give anime movies a passing glance.

Oh well, I look forward (hopefully) to a home media release! Wink (He says still wishing someone would license A Silent Voice already! Evil or Very Mad )


I think part of the problem is the publicity and not getting enough exposure to generate interest. Second, you got the stigma of watching an animated movie, which even today is regarded "for kids".

So makes me wonder if these movies were on Netflix or some other streaming site, would've it made more money?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:11 am Reply with quote
So it’s worth mentioning that this flopped pretty hard in Australia. Whereas Your Name and A Silent Voice got their screenings extended for several weeks after the initial projected release cycle, this got taken out of cinemas very quickly after making about $60 000 on it’s opening weekend and only a bit over $80 000 from 42 theatres in its entire run. I don’t have the statistics on me but I heard it did even worse in the UK and New Zealand. So you’d think GKids would pay attention to that right?

Well I did the maths. This was shown at over 500 theatres and over a longer space of time. Not only did it not do any better, it actually did a bit worse on average.

Can’t say I’m surprised since word already got out from the Australian and UK release that it was a steaming pile of mediocre. I’m just baffled that they thought picking this up would be a good idea.
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I would have supported this film, but it didn’t air in my town’s theater. Hope it come to Netflix sometime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:32 am Reply with quote
We had no showing at all for Canada. Excluded so often.
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I watched this at a local theater in Fairfax, Va. I was very happy to support the film and will definitely support other anime films when they get showings in my area (one of the highlights of the last few years for me was seeing the original GITS film on the big screen).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:11 am Reply with quote
BlueRex666 wrote:
I'm sad that I'm remided how little other people in the West don't even give anime movies a passing glance.

Oh well, I look forward (hopefully) to a home media release! Wink (He says still wishing someone would license A Silent Voice already! Evil or Very Mad )


I think it did rather well considering they were showing the movie in a small selection of theaters and only for 3 days.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:24 pm Reply with quote
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
I’m just baffled that they thought picking this up would be a good idea.


GKIDS passed on Your Name. pretty early on because they were given very little information on the movie. I guess they've been salty about that.

GoldCrusader wrote:
We had no showing at all for Canada. Excluded so often.


It got an art house run in Canada.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:54 pm Reply with quote
Primus wrote:
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
I’m just baffled that they thought picking this up would be a good idea.


GKIDS passed on Your Name. pretty early on because they were given very little information on the movie. I guess they've been salty about that.


BAHAHAHAHA that’s so funny. Yeah I bet Funi is really gutted.

Considering the movie didn’t even make 1/10th of Your Name, flopped in most international markets outside of China and got handed a VERY Rotten 43 on RT I’m gonna have to say they made a bad call there even if I’m doing so with the benefit of hindsight.

I think basically anyone who saw this movie will tell you, but Your Name this ain’t. The story is sloppy, the character motivations are wonky, its sense of humour is creepy and not at all kid friendly, the animation is super inconcsistent, it’s a mess. Its only saving grace is the music and the occasional good cuts of animation. So just stay home and watch the music videos on YouTube, they’ve got all the good stuff.

Seriously, even the friend I went with was all ‘hmmm yeah not great’.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:59 pm Reply with quote
GeorgeC wrote:
It's not just anime...
In general animated films that are NOT Disney or Pixar (or DreamWorks) which don't follow the princess formula or road trip/buddy formula just don't get attention from audiences. They are aimed at little kids and/or families because that's been the stable theatrical audience for animated features since forever in the West. That has not changed in over 80 years despite on-and-off attempts to broaden the appeal of animation in the West and tackle different subjects and genres.
On TV, there's more variety BUT animation is still generally considered a kids' thing, even the better-written action/adventure series are aimed at kids. Only Fox has had success with "big kids" animation and those are all sitcoms, it's the safest format to do "more adult" topics and even then it's sophomoric humor and less satire. I wouldn't call Family Guy, American Dad, and or The Simpsons for the past 18 years brilliant satire!

They've tried to break Disney's formulas a few times but those films have generally been bombs. It also hasn't helped that the films that don't follow the general formula have been mostly piss-poor efforts.
Treasure Planet, Titan AE (one of the worst animated science fiction films I've seen), and most of Bluth's films and Bakshi's films have not followed Disney formulas -- and they were colossal bombs in most cases. They've tried these things at least 20 times. There's perhaps 5 "adult" or "serious" animated films that were hits and only one is still remembered today and even that's a comedy -- Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

In the West, you're supposed to be out of the "animation phase" by the time you become a teenager. There's an unwritten rule that only geeks and nerds keep following this stuff after a period of time. It's short-sighted but it's the general rule.
things past your early teens. It's very rare for me to go to a theater screening an anime feature and have more than 20 people tops watching that film along with me -- and that's in a major American market that has state university with over 50,000 students!


Don't remind me. I have always hated that mindset; when I saw this movie at an Alamo Drafthouse not only was it already being shown in a smaller than normal theater there, but there were only like 3 other people there.

I say people should just watch anything with a good story and characters, regardless of the medium being used.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:03 pm Reply with quote
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
BAHAHAHAHA that’s so funny. Yeah I bet Funi is really gutted.

Considering the movie didn’t even make 1/10th of Your Name, flopped in most international markets outside of China and got handed a VERY Rotten 43 on RT I’m gonna have to say they made a bad call there even if I’m doing so with the benefit of hindsight.

I think basically anyone who saw this movie will tell you, but Your Name this ain’t. The story is sloppy, the character motivations are wonky, its sense of humour is creepy and not at all kid friendly, the animation is super inconcsistent, it’s a mess. Its only saving grace is the music and the occasional good cuts of animation. So just stay home and watch the music videos on YouTube, they’ve got all the good stuff.

Seriously, even the friend I went with was all ‘hmmm yeah not great’.


While I'd never say Fireworks is a masterpiece, can't we just focus on even if it was this film probably would of still been neglected by the West because of our stupid prejudices and stigma on animation?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Considering it was mostly single showings scattered across the country for a few days, half a million doesn't seem too bad when of course, Japan's mainstream release made $1.4 million on the first day. I hope GKIDS gets some injected capital to get more future releases out there. Frankly, its name doesn't help with the whole "animation is for kids" stigma.
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