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EP. REVIEW: The Helpful Fox Senko-san

How come this is being reviewed but Uzamaid and Wataten didn't? Guess ANN hates loli shows when it's yuri and only picks up the ones that are het.

There's a poll for what gets streaming reviews. The ANN staff don't decide what gets reviewed, those who vote do.
I have a myriad of problems with ANN myself, but maybe don't jump to false assumptions that can be easily avoided. No one will take you seriously when there's something worth criticizing.

ThatGuyWhoLikesThings wrote:

There's a poll for what gets streaming reviews. The ANN staff don't decide what gets reviewed, those who vote do. I have a myriad of problems with ANN myself, but maybe don't jump to false assumptions that can be easily avoided. No one will take you seriously when there's something worth criticizing.

That's the point. ANN does hate loli anime when it's yuri and loves it when it's het. Uzamaid and Wataten are boring as hell because there's no male MC to self-insert but Senko-san is so much better than them because there's a male MC.

I'm going to be very disappointed if this show doesn't end with Senko instigating a nationwide labor revolt.

Wellington wrote:

ThatGuyWhoLikesThings wrote: There's a poll for what gets streaming reviews. The ANN staff don't decide what gets reviewed, those who vote do. I have a myriad of problems with ANN myself, but maybe don't jump to false assumptions that can be easily avoided. No one will take you seriously when there's something worth criticizing. That's the point. ANN does hate loli anime when it's yuri and loves it when it's het. Uzamaid and Wataten are boring as hell because there's no male MC to self-insert but Senko-san is so much better than them because there's a male MC.

it's not fair, I really enjoy uzamaid and wataten much more since the relationship seems more charismatic and intimate between girls, while this falls in the typical Manic Pixie Dream Girl a type of plot seen in shows that really dislike me like "to love-ru" they always criticize and point out isekai shows as only self-insertion and wish fullfilment this case is not very different.

I understand this is going to come off as pretty inflammatory, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's important not to discard the fact that Uzamaid and Wataten don't so much have 'lolicon subtext' as they have 'pedophilic text'. Senko-san absolutely plays into lolicon pandering by emphasizing how much Senko looks like a child, but as the show constantly reminds us, she is indeed 800 years old. For all intents and purposes, regardless of how she looks, Senko is a competent adult fully consenting to the time she spends with Kuroto and the two of them are roughly of the same standing with each other. There isn't anything coercive or predatory about their relationship.

Uzamaid and Wataten, by contrast, are explicitly about actual, real, honest to god children being preyed on and pursued by adults – the maid in Uzamaid even makes a point of talking about how she's only attracted to girls who haven't menstruated. Unlike Senko-san, where the admittedly present lolicon pandering is just a side dish to the main series, the whole point of these other shows is children being harrassed and pursued by adults (or at the very least, people vastly outside their age bracket, in the case of Wataten).

Pedophilia is a massively touchy subject, especially in Western territories and ignoring that context to put up the strawman of ANN HATES YURI is pretty willfully ignorant of the fact that these three shows are massively different in tone and presentation and really doesn't make it look like you're arguing in good faith.

yurigasaki wrote:

I understand this is going to come off as pretty inflammatory, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's important not to discard the fact that Uzamaid and Wataten don't so much have 'lolicon subtext' as they have 'pedophilic text'. Senko-san absolutely plays into lolicon pandering by emphasizing how much Senko looks like a child, but as the show constantly reminds us, she is indeed 800 years old. For all intents and purposes, regardless of how she looks, Senko is a competent adult fully consenting to the time she spends with Kuroto and the two of them are roughly of the same standing with each other. There isn't anything coercive or predatory about their relationship. Uzamaid and Wataten, by contrast, are explicitly about actual, real, honest to god children being preyed on and pursued by adults – the maid in Uzamaid even makes a point of talking about how she's only attracted to girls who haven't menstruated. Unlike Senko-san, where the admittedly present lolicon pandering is just a side dish to the main series, the whole point of these other shows is children being harrassed and pursued by adults (or at the very least, people vastly outside their age bracket, in the case of Wataten). Pedophilia is a massively touchy subject, especially in Western territories and ignoring that context to put up the strawman of ANN HATES YURI is pretty willfully ignorant of the fact that these three shows are massively different in tone and presentation and really doesn't make it look like you're arguing in good faith.

Sounds like a sad pathetic excuse and more than pretty inflammatory. So a loli anime with a male MC shows maturity but a loli with a female MC is just pedophile. Thanks for proving more that ANN hates yuri and people love treating yuri like crap. Why do you have yuri in your name when you hate yuri anyway?