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NEWS: Adult Swim's Toonami to Run Gundam: The Origin Starting on July 6




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Zeino



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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:07 pm Reply with quote
On the one hand, this won't have the continuity lock-out problem that Unicorn had for new viewers. On the other, it will be be like watching the Star Wars Prequel trilogy first and then never getting to see the original one. There is no way that Adult Swim is going to try airing the original Mobile Suit Gundam series with it's woodenly acted Ocean dub again afterwords. And Sunrise seem uninterested in making more Origin at the moment.... So newcomers are going to be left hanging and unsatisfied.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:38 pm Reply with quote
Zeino wrote:
On the one hand, this won't have the continuity lock-out problem that Unicorn had for new viewers. On the other, it will be be like watching the Star Wars Prequel trilogy first and then never getting to see the original one. There is no way that Adult Swim is going to try airing the original Mobile Suit Gundam series with it's woodenly acted Ocean dub again afterwords. And Sunrise seem uninterested in making more Origin at the moment.... So newcomers are going to be left hanging and unsatisfied.


This literally leads up to the original series, I don't see how newcomers would be confused. It establishes everything that becomes important later, chronologically.

I also quite enjoy the Ocean dub of 0079. They leaned into the cheesiness, sure, but there were some solid performances, too.

My only concern is the pacing of the TV episode version, where one episode begins and/or cuts off before the next. That really hampered Unicorn's airing (aside from the impenetrability for newbies, though I think that was overstated).
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Zeino



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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:11 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
This literally leads up to the original series, I don't see how newcomers would be confused. It establishes everything that becomes important later, chronologically.

I never said it would be confusing. I'm saying that new viewers will be left hanging for a resolution to the story they've just been introduced to and won't be getting unless they go buy the Blu-Rays/DVDs for MSG because Toonami doesn't do anime that's older than Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star now.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:20 pm Reply with quote
The original TV series never did well on Toonami. The first airing was ostensibly canceled because of 9/11 (we believed anything back then if you just said, ''because 9/11!"). And the second time, I guess it got low ratings. Unfortunately, a lot of viewers have a bias against older anime.

They could try again, I suppose. Maybe The Origin will make people want to see the original.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Considering Sunrise is wholly uninterested in making a full manga adaptation of The Origin that goes into the parts people care about and the movie probably won’t hit until 2021 at earliest (and even that is a 50/50 split between it being an Origin adaptation or a full on AU, although they fact they tested the scriptwriter by making him watch Gundam Narrative to test if he got all the references leans towards the former)...this seems kinda dumb.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 5:35 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Considering Sunrise is wholly uninterested in making a full manga adaptation of The Origin that goes into the parts people care about and the movie probably won’t hit until 2021 at earliest (and even that is a 50/50 split between it being an Origin adaptation or a full on AU, although they fact they tested the scriptwriter by making him watch Gundam Narrative to test if he got all the references leans towards the former)...this seems kinda dumb.


Hey Tom did say more gundam was coming down the pike.....years ago Razz
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:33 pm Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
The original TV series never did well on Toonami. The first airing was ostensibly canceled because of 9/11 (we believed anything back then if you just said, ''because 9/11!"). And the second time, I guess it got low ratings. Unfortunately, a lot of viewers have a bias against older anime.


In hindsight, they never should have followed Wing up with 0079... but arguably the only show that would have come anywhere close to Wing in aesthetics or tone would have been X, and I can't imagine that anyone at Sunrise was confident that an anime could perform any better on US TV than it had in Japan (remember, this was before Cowboy Bebop hit the US airwaves).

(Also, ditto on remembering that people just casually accepted "9/11" as a reason for the show's cancellation.)
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:46 pm Reply with quote
So will this be the episodic adaptation or are they going to spend six weeks showing the OVAs?
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TexZero



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 5:07 pm Reply with quote
RommieSG wrote:
So will this be the episodic adaptation or are they going to spend six weeks showing the OVAs?


It's going to be the episodes more likely than not.
If they wanted to air the OVA's they could have done so already.

The sub and dub are still up on GundamInfo's youtube for those who don't care to watch the chopped for TV version.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:26 pm Reply with quote
always good to see some more Gundam even if it's been quite awhile since IBO season 2 finished
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:23 pm Reply with quote
This seems like it would be a good time for them to finally put the original 0079 on Crunchyroll.
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Strike105



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 2:01 am Reply with quote
The animated version of The Origin isn't actually a prequel to the 1979 series, it's a partial adaptation of a re-imagining, and is thus an Alternate Universe series. This series' events don't fully sync up with the main UC timeline's established lore, and character ages are tweaked all over the place.
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