×
  • remind me tomorrow
  • remind me next week
  • never remind me
Subscribe to the ANN Newsletter • Wake up every Sunday to a curated list of ANN's most interesting posts of the week. read more

Forum - View topic
NEWS: Dissidia Final Fantasy NT Game Adds Final Fantasy VII's Tifa




Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Psajdak





PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:21 pm Reply with quote
Should we discuss boobs?
Back to top
Kurohei



Joined: 13 Dec 2010
Posts: 597
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:37 pm Reply with quote
Everyone: Sad about the bust change.
Me: Only one sad about the voice changes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
johnnysasaki



Joined: 01 Jun 2014
Posts: 925
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Kurohei wrote:
Everyone: Sad about the bust change.
Me: Only one sad about the voice changes.


I'm still trying to understand why replacing everyone in the remake but still keeping the VAs who have been playing these characters since Kingdom Hearts/Advent Children for the spin-offs and crossovers.Meanwhile,Takahiro Sakurai,Toshiyuki Morikawa and company are reprising these characters as usual...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AmpersandsUnited



Joined: 22 Mar 2012
Posts: 633
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:13 pm Reply with quote
johnnysasaki wrote:
I'm still trying to understand why replacing everyone in the remake but still keeping the VAs who have been playing these characters since Kingdom Hearts/Advent Children for the spin-offs and crossovers.Meanwhile,Takahiro Sakurai,Toshiyuki Morikawa and company are reprising these characters as usual...


Two theories

- The long established voice actors might be too expensive for Square Enix America to bother bringing back so they went with new voices. Dissidia does not have much voice acting, so they wont be paid as much as a large expansive game like FF7.

- More name recognition with the general population. Cloud is now voiced by an actor who's done MTV and The CW shows like Teen Wolf, so they might see that as a bigger draw for non-Final Fantasy fans than using his established actor. The FF7 remake seems to be aiming at non-fans of the franchise rather than core friends from what all we've been seeing so this is a marketing move.

The Japanese seiyuu don't change because Japan is much more engrossed in voice actors than the west is so changing them would be catastrophic.

I'm just happy Tifa looks like Tifa in this. I would have much preferred this design in the remake. I suppose it also helps ease people's fears of future censorship in Square games. Maybe this sinister ethics department was only established for the FF7 remake. Their other games seem unaffected it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Remington Steele



Joined: 06 Dec 2015
Posts: 63
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:30 pm Reply with quote
Psajdak wrote:
Should we discuss boobs?


I want to!

It is clear the Dissidia version of Tifa will be the far superior version. Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZodiacBeast



Joined: 26 Jan 2010
Posts: 142
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:40 pm Reply with quote
"Sinister ethics department"? You mean the one that said "she's athletic, so please don't let her boobs fly around when she fights?"

Oh, the horror!

Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Predictabo



Joined: 25 Jun 2019
Posts: 13
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:20 pm Reply with quote
ZodiacBeast wrote:
"Sinister ethics department"? You mean the one that said "she's athletic, so please don't let her boobs fly around when she fights?"

Oh, the horror!

Rolling Eyes


Nothing is stopping them from applying whatever amount of bounce physics they feel is appropriate. It's almost like they could have kept the same exact outfit and simply not had them bounce around like crazy. Nuts right? It's pretty clear that both CERO and to a lesser extent the ESRB have started to crack down hard on things. That probably explains the decision to cover her bare legs, loosen up the skirt, add spats and "restrict" her.

I'm personally more concerned about the edgy moments in the original being toned down or removed entirely just to keep a T (or CERO-C) rating. I know Tifa will end up getting modded on the PC version and if all the cut-scenes are rendered in-game it won't be a problem at all. Everyone will get what they want...except PS4 owners. It'll be even better than the Dissidia version because it will have those amazing abs.

On a side note: IMO Nier Automata being M (CERO-D) is part of what I feel made it great. I almost feel like if they had more faith in it becoming a hit they'd of forced Yoko Taro to alter his vision and get it down to a T (CERO-C). In reaching that wide mainstream appeal it may not have been the amazing hit, story and game it end up being precisely because it was an uncompromising vision full of weird off-putting things.

I just don't want FF7 Remake to be some focus group approved thing in the end. The original was super creative and had a wide range of tones and atmosphere. I don't want the Hollywood version of FF7, I want the passion project version of FF7.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The-_-paper



Joined: 21 Nov 2015
Posts: 5
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:11 am Reply with quote
Good, Tifa was a fun character in Duodecim. Now please bring her to Tekken 7 as a guest character too please!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BadNewsBlues



Joined: 21 Sep 2014
Posts: 5920
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:33 am Reply with quote
#892054 wrote:


Nothing is stopping them from applying whatever amount of bounce physics they feel is appropriate. It's almost like they could have kept the same exact outfit and simply not had them bounce around like crazy. Nuts right? It's pretty clear that both CERO and to a lesser extent the ESRB have started to crack down hard on things.


I don't know about CERO but the ESRB hasn't cracked down on anything.

#892054 wrote:

I'm personally more concerned about the edgy moments in the original being toned down or removed entirely just to keep a T (or CERO-C) rating. I know Tifa will end up getting modded on the PC version


What PC version?

#892054 wrote:

and if all the cut-scenes are rendered in-game it won't be a problem at all. Everyone will get what they want...except PS4 owners.


I don't think most PS4 owners care about this.


It'll be even better than the Dissidia version because it will have those amazing abs.

#892054 wrote:

On a side note: IMO Nier Automata being M (CERO-D) is part of what I feel made it great. I almost feel like if they had more faith in it becoming a hit they'd of forced Yoko Taro to alter his vision and get it down to a T (CERO-C).


Why would they have done that when Gestalt and Replicant were both CERO D?

#892054 wrote:

In reaching that wide mainstream appeal it may not have been the amazing hit, story and game it end up being precisely because it was an uncompromising vision full of weird off-putting things


Just like the Drakengard trilogy?

#892054 wrote:

I just don't want FF7 Remake to be some focus group approved thing in the end. The original was super creative and had a wide range of tones and atmosphere. I don't want the Hollywood version of FF7, I want the passion project version of FF7.


What you get regardless of what you're expecting isn't going to be the same exact experience you got when you played the original. So you'd best put the nostalgia to the side and temper your expectations.


AmpersandsUnited wrote:

I'm just happy Tifa looks like Tifa in this. I would have much preferred this design in the remake. I suppose it also helps ease people's fears of future censorship in Square games. Maybe this sinister ethics department was only established for the FF7 remake. Their other games seem unaffected it.


Their other games including the FF7 Remake have far more pressing issues than breasts sizes.

Remington Steele wrote:


It is clear the Dissidia version of Tifa will be the far superior version. Smile


Kinda dulled by the fact that Dissidia NT is......not very well liked.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
KabaKabaFruit



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 1871
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:58 am Reply with quote
AmpersandsUnited wrote:
- The long established voice actors might be too expensive for Square Enix America to bother bringing back so they went with new voices. Dissidia does not have much voice acting, so they wont be paid as much as a large expansive game like FF7.

Right, because fixing what ain't broke is so going to drag Square-Enix into the red. Rolling Eyes
AmpersandsUnited wrote:
- More name recognition with the general population. Cloud is now voiced by an actor who's done MTV and The CW shows like Teen Wolf, so they might see that as a bigger draw for non-Final Fantasy fans than using his established actor. The FF7 remake seems to be aiming at non-fans of the franchise rather than core friends from what all we've been seeing so this is a marketing move.

Then it's a bad marketing move.

I see no reason why Steve Burton, George Newburn et al. couldn't have been brought back to this game and also attract fans and non-fans alike. This isn't the mid-90's anymore so there is no reason to think that RPGs or action RPGs aren't prevalent in the gaming mainstream. Final Fantasy 7 is a well-established property by now. It'll sell! You don't need recasts to ensure that it will.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Commander Cluck



Joined: 02 May 2019
Posts: 123
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:58 am Reply with quote
Insert joke about ethics here.

BadNewsBlues wrote:
Kinda dulled by the fact that Dissidia NT is......not very well liked.


The joke was NT stood for No Tifa. It's time to retire that now. Dissidia NT is fun, but it's less Dissidia and more Fighters now. For some people that's a deal-breaker, but it also is more balanced and has a higher skill ceiling which is nice.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group