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NEWS: YouTube Sends Founders to Japan


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RezSav



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:46 pm Reply with quote
NOW I remember what story I was going to submit this morning. I wonder if this'll be the beginning of the end for fansubs' reign over Youtube.
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:53 pm Reply with quote
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"FUNimation has also contacted YouTube and is utilizing YouTube's Content Verification Tool and has submitted over 2,000 videos for removal because of invalid copyright permssion," Senior Brand Manager Lance Heiskell tells ANN.


That pretty much sum it up for me, but now that youtube has been bought out by google I wonder how this will be handle.
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Gage



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:58 pm Reply with quote
The turnouts to this should be interesting. I would like to see the changes to YouTube once this is all said and done.
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AirCooledMan_2006



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:13 pm Reply with quote
I'm sure even with all this, people will still post fansubs on YouTube.

In fact, they're really a necessary evil if you ask me. They help make anime accessible (Especially where it otherwise wouldn't be), they create a nice early fanbase abroad before the shows are licensed, and create free publicity for both the Japanese studios and the eventual domestic licensors.
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kurotsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:14 pm Reply with quote
i was banned from youtube because Sunrise did not liked my Gundams AMV . >_>
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Natasmai



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:21 pm Reply with quote
Wow, they won't even accept AMVs? Never knew that. I thought you were allowed as long as it wasn't for commercial purposes.
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kurotsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:26 pm Reply with quote
i know it's wierd .
but it was during the summer , i think sunrise had launched a campain to remove the most Gundam stuff from Youtube . i don't even think they checked the content .
i think they have bot that search the internet and when they find tags with " gundam " in it , they just tell youtube to remove the video.
Then youtube remove the video and tell you copyright infringement . The thing is you don't even know what infringed the copyright . The music ? the content ? what ?
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Karasuhebi



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:27 pm Reply with quote
It kind of makes sense that they wouldn't allow AMVs in YouTube, considering how strict YouTube is with certain things. Because technically speaking, AMVs are illegal. Companies just usually turn a blind eye on that because it's just a bunch of fans having fun with an anime, it's not really anything harmful to the company like fansubs are sometimes for licensed products.

-Karasuhebi

Edit: LOL, that was interesting. As soon as I posted this reply I got an e-mail notify in Gmail saying it had already been replied. I was like WTH? Is the system b0rked and reporting to me my own reply? And then I came here and I saw that two other people had posted replies to this topic at basically the same time I had. Awesome! lol


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Daemonblue



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:27 pm Reply with quote
Na, it's still copyright infringement since you are using their products without permission, just most companies don't care cause the makers aren't making money (usually) and it's free promotion. Then again, some companies aren't that intelligent and think that all copyright infringements, even if it's for the good of their company, should die (because most of those kinds are money hungry and want to sue).

Edit: Wow, three comments within a few seconds, mine was in response to the one by Nata Razz
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kurotsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:29 pm Reply with quote
well..yea..i did some research after that and i then learned that AMV where technically illegal. which is stupid . i don't even make money out of it .
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bayoab



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:31 pm Reply with quote
It's probably more likely that they just did a blanket search and removal because there are other series which were reported as basically fully removed except a few commercials.
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kurotsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:33 pm Reply with quote
that's what i think to . because my friend who had also Gundam amv never received a notice .
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lheiskell
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:45 pm Reply with quote
AirCooledMan_2006 wrote:
I'm sure even with all this, people will still post fansubs on YouTube.


Yes, and now some are leaving YouTube and going to other YouTube clone or me too sites where they can upload. We also know about these sites and will be contacting them as well.

Some of these anime fans might not have had a civics class or understand that what they are doing is wrong. We need to educate them so they can support the industry in a positive legal way.

Lance Heiskelll
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DarkTenshi90



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:00 pm Reply with quote
Personally, I don't really think AMVs are too much of a concern... well, they shouldn't be, anyway. Unless the person is selling their AMVs for profit, then yes, that is a concern. But if they're just having good ol' fun (I make a lot of AMVs just for kicks) then that should be okay. Besides, anime companies get free promotion, as said earlier, from them. I've gotten into several anime just from AMVs alone, so why is it such a big deal for people to post them? (Yes, I know they're illegal, but I still think it's rather strange for companies to get upset, knowing even Anime Cons have contests for them).
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chrisb
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:02 pm Reply with quote
I don't mind American companies removing full episodes of series since it is their property and they do lose money but for Japanese companies to ask to remove OP and ED and JPOP music videos? I would think use the music videos for promotion since in Japan they are called PVs (Promotional Videos) and I wouldn't mind at all having to place links of where to buy a legal copy.

Also are Japanese companies getting involved because Japanese viewers are using the site or do they just not want fansubs available to anyone? I'm just saying because most Japanese companies have rarely made a big deal over torrents and such in the past. On that note, why only Youtube and not the actual fansub group?


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