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NEWS: Ghibli's 1st CG Feature Earwig and the Witch Reveals Cast, Staff, December 30 Debut




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Badej



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:26 am Reply with quote
Yikes. If I wanted to see a Pixar movie, I would go and see a Pixar movie.
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gridsleep





PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:27 am Reply with quote
Badej wrote:
Yikes. If I wanted to see a Pixar movie, I would go and see a Pixar movie.


Jingoist.
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gridsleep





PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:28 am Reply with quote
They should retitle the film "Earwig and the Angsty Witch" just for the veiled reference points.
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ARC-1300



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:35 pm Reply with quote
it's not offensive or anything like that, but man, they still have a long way to go with this art form.

it doesn't help that i am not a fan of it here.
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Redlinks



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:54 pm Reply with quote
And here I thought that Miyazaki-sensei always had a distaste for CGI animation. Disappointing that they're going down this road. I've never been a fan of CGI animation.
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Badej



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:44 am Reply with quote
gridsleep wrote:
Badej wrote:
Yikes. If I wanted to see a Pixar movie, I would go and see a Pixar movie.


Jingoist.


How so? I'm not even Japanese. What Ghibli is doing here is throwing away their recognisable style for a dime a dozen style.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:49 pm Reply with quote
Badej wrote:


How so? I'm not even Japanese. What Ghibli is doing here is throwing away their recognisable style for a dime a dozen style.


A dime a dozen style that if you’ve paid any attention isn’t always done right either at
theatrical or tv level.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:12 pm Reply with quote
Last time, the thread was surprisingly open-minded and thoughtful. I guess this thread is the counterbalance to that. Rolling Eyes animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3151374

Redlinks wrote:
And here I thought that Miyazaki-sensei always had a distaste for CGI animation. Disappointing that they're going down this road. I've never been a fan of CGI animation.

It's been five years since this news came out: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hayao-miyazaki-latest-film-cgi-caterpillar

I don't even consider myself a true fan of him or Ghibli outside Nausicaa. Maybe I can gatekeep both of us as "not real fans" at the same time Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:31 pm Reply with quote
I'm still going to give it a chance, but like what was mentioned in the other thread, one form of animation shouldn't be tossed out in favor of another.
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nDroae



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:40 pm Reply with quote
So, you'd be equally against it if a 3D CG studio started making 2D hand-drawn? I'm sorry, I don't believe that. Wink

I inevitably think of metalheads reacting to a metal band putting out a softer album. Metal is perceived like an endangered species, and every band making good music is precious, so how dare this band put out a pop album? They're betraying us, their loyal supporters, by selling out to the disgusting mainstream.

Normally I try to give the benefit of the doubt, that the artists actually wanted to try playing a different kind of music. I might like it or I might not. There are bands I wish still put out music like they did 10-15 years ago. Those bands always have an online chorus of disgruntled fans, which it's seldom worth adding to.

As for this movie, I'm not optimistic that I'll like it. I hope it was at least faster and easier to make than is usual for Ghibli, though I've heard that for a good quality CG film, that's surprisingly not the case.
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Redlinks



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:46 pm Reply with quote
nDroae wrote:
Last time, the thread was surprisingly open-minded and thoughtful. I guess this thread is the counterbalance to that. Rolling Eyes animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3151374

Redlinks wrote:
And here I thought that Miyazaki-sensei always had a distaste for CGI animation. Disappointing that they're going down this road. I've never been a fan of CGI animation.

It's been five years since this news came out: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/hayao-miyazaki-latest-film-cgi-caterpillar

I don't even consider myself a true fan of him or Ghibli outside Nausicaa. Maybe I can gatekeep both of us as "not real fans" at the same time Razz


Part of the reason why I am so disappointed in this movie's animation style is because I recall Miyazaki being so against CGI. I applauded Ghibili's determination to stay away from CGI and keep their studio traditional. Traditional style animation is a dying art, specially here in America. I just don't want Ghibli to turn out to be the next Pixar and ruin traditional animation like it did here in America. I'd be really sad to see traditional style in Japan die out too.
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nDroae



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:30 am Reply with quote
And here's the parallel:
nDroae wrote:
Metal is perceived like an endangered species, and every band making good music is precious

Redlinks wrote:
Traditional style animation is a dying art, specially here in America.

At least you can look forward to Miyazaki's "How Do You Live?" which, last I heard, was being hand-drawn at a rate of one minute per month.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-12-17/hayao-miyazaki-next-film-is-15-percent-complete-after-3.5-years/.154489

nDroae wrote:
There are bands I wish still put out music like they did 10-15 years ago.

That said, until I heard of this CG film, I figured Ghibli would at some point stop all production and turn entirely into a nostalgia-driven brand merchandising company. That's actually the worst possible outcome, though it would prevent the feeling of "this could have and should have been 2D hand-drawn," which is inevitable, whether true or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:18 pm Reply with quote
I really should get around to buying this book; Diana Wynne Jones is my favourite author, though this is aimed at younger children than most of her works, and is by all accounts very short (144 pages). Sadly she died the same year it was published.
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