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This Week in Anime - How Does Vivy Reinvigorate the AI vs Humanity Trope?




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a_Bear_in_Bearcave



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:13 pm Reply with quote
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if I were an anti-robot terrorist who kept getting his life saved by a hot and super strong robot lady, I'd probably have some complicated feelings boiling in there.

I thought the same think, especially in the second episode in which after being saved he then saw her flying through the broken glass with giant moon as the background.
It was definitely moment of "I don't want AIs to become rulers of humanity with their mechanical feet on our necks" - except for that one hot singer/action hero lady, she can step on me as much as she likes.
I liked how Vivy had her a bit timid voice and communication problems (slightly going away), and her eyes are truly otherworldly beautiful. Not that it stops her when it comes to creating her harem (or in some cases just fan) circle. She's already got the rising young politician, the renowned soldier of the Toak forces, she's going to resolve the upcoming AI war by making the whole of humanity her proud simps, won't she?
I for one welcome our new combined Hatsune Miku/Major Makoto Kusanagi AI overlord.
EDIT: It was really hauntingly beautiful and sad - and probably GitS inspired, not that there's anything wrong with that kind of inspiration - moment, when she was crawling on the concrete with limbs torn off, to try and save what was precious to her.
I hope in the next episode we will get some insight into Toak anti-robot guy's thoughts.
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tiny wisecracking teddy bear, which automatically triggers my fight or flight response thanks to Danganronpa. He's nothing but bad news.


THANK YOU

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this when I saw it.

I knew about Vivy back when it was first announced and the team behind it I'm still surprised at how good it is. I don't quite know what it is but something surrounding this series and all the information about it just lulled me into a false sense of security.

The impression I got from it was... mediocre or bland. Of course, after just watching the prologue I realized that this was going to be one hell of a show.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm Reply with quote
A robot teddy bear also made me think of the movie AI.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:32 pm Reply with quote
JeanKarlo wrote:
and I am that basic bitch that will actively seek out Asimov's Caves of Steel for fun.


Dang, really? I've only read the first two of Asimov's book in this "series". That included Caves of Steel, however, and I found both books .. wildly imaginative and prescient (his world-building seems to have always been coherent, scientifically plausible, and farsighted enough that, were I born 70 years ago, I suspect I'd have found it hard to ignore), but also god awful in anything that wasn't world-building. In particular, I don't think there was a single moment in either book where I felt I could see his characters as more than mostly empty shells for telling the story around them.

Admittedly, a lot is working against him, here, and I suspect I'd've overlooked almost all of this if I had read his work before technology got so far into some of the ideas he was trying to predict, but I do genuinely think his character work and general storytelling was pretty weak. Made up for, to major extent, by his world-building and gift for imagining plausibly scientific -- and deeply interesting -- futures, but -- well, still. I guess I'm accustomed to ANN reviewers prioritizing exactly the things I thought were weakest in these books, so I'm surprised by this comment.

Not a bad thing, mind you. Staffs evolve, or maybe I'm wrong and misunderstanding of course. Just surprised.

EDIT: Oh, but, yes. Vivy is lovely, and emotionally engaging -- even, sometimes, overwhelming -- in ways I never expected from a production I had no expectations for. Hell, I've gotten a little teary-eyed at a nice turn of phrase in some of the reviews for it, just remembering the scenes. Totally eye-to-eye on that.

Steve wrote:
It's also worth noting that Matsumoto spends the first two arcs as a tiny wisecracking teddy bear, which automatically triggers my fight or flight response thanks to Danganronpa. He's nothing but bad news.


Oh, dear. Feeling this pretty hard, too.
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