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NEWS: Tokyopop to Release Victory for Ukraine Graphic Novel Anthology by Ukranian Creators; Donate P




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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:39 am Reply with quote
A very commendable endeavour. I will definitely get this, digitally if possible.

Though I have been adverse to Tokyopop due to their past transgressions, thumbs up for them for this.
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MaritLage



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:41 am Reply with quote
whoa cool
something to keep an eye out for then !
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Hiroki not Takuya



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:00 am Reply with quote
Artwork looks great, though reminiscent of propaganda. Hope the title is prescient..
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Brainchild129



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:52 pm Reply with quote
Part of me wants to hope that the artists involved with this venture were paid a fair rate for their work and that the portion of the proceeds that TP will be donating to charity will be a generous one.

...but I kind of doubt it, considering the company's history. You'd be better off donating directly to a known, reputable charity working in Ukraine instead.
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Suxinn



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:44 am Reply with quote
How big's the profit share? I want to be excited for this, but with Tokyopop's history of underpaying its OEL manga creators and just generally mismanaging their finances, I'm... extremely skeptical.

I think I'll just donate to actual Ukrainian support organizations instead.
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NotRussophobia



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:42 am Reply with quote
Here are some facts about the Ukraine crisis you may not be aware of. I have listed them to try to cool down the hot temper of so much of the debate about this issue, which threatens to widen and deepen an appalling war.

Q. How long have Western countries been giving military aid to Ukraine?

A. The US has been giving Ukraine generous foreign and military aid since 1991, when Ukraine became a country. In the decade after 1991, Ukraine received almost $2.6 billion. In the years leading up to Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014, it was getting roughly $105 million per year, including military financing, most given long before any threat of Russian invasion. The US began supplying weapons in 2018. Britain began giving military aid to Ukraine in 2014, in the form of advisers and training.

Q. Did anyone ever try to solve the problem that some of Ukraine’s Russian-speaking citizens did not want to be in Ukraine – a main reason for hostility between Moscow and Kiev after 1991?

A. Yes, right from the start. On August 26, 1991, two days after Kiev declared independence from Moscow, the then Russian president Boris Yeltsin said that the old Soviet borders between Russia and Ukraine would have to be redrawn to deal with this problem. He retracted this within a day, almost certainly thanks to pressure from the United States. By May 1992, 250,000 of Crimea’s roughly two million mostly Russian people had signed a petition asking for a referendum on independence – enough to trigger a vote under Ukrainian law. On May 5 that year, Crimea’s parliament voted 118 to 28 to secede from Ukraine. But the Kiev government prevented a referendum from taking place.

Q. Would it have been possible to change the borders of Ukraine peacefully to avoid this obvious problem?

A. Yes, as European borders are not sacrosanct. The US and the UK, along with dozens of other countries (though not Ukraine), have recognised Kosovo’s breakaway from Serbia in 2008. The whole of the former Yugoslavia has been scissored into many new states, mostly recognised by the majority of nations. Ukraine, for instance, was among the earliest countries to recognise Croatia’s 1991 breakaway from Yugoslavia, then a highly controversial step.

Q. What is the biggest political snub in modern history?

A. In March 2007, Vladimir Putin warned very specifically against further expansion of Nato. Just a year later, President George W. Bush announced that he wanted Ukraine to join Nato, wholly aware that his action would infuriate Moscow. It did.

Q. Is Russia alone in committing alleged atrocities in Ukraine?

A. No. More than one allegation has been made, supported by apparent video evidence, of Ukrainian soldiers killing or maiming captured and helpless Russian prisoners of war. It must be stressed that these claims have not been proven. However, it is incontestable that both Russian and Ukrainian forces were guilty of military actions leading to the deaths of civilians, including children, during the war which has raged since 2014 in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

Q. Could the current war have been avoided?

A. Very much so. President Volodymyr Zelensky was elected largely on a promise to seek peace, which he courageously did in 2019. But political rivals and hard-Right militias both opposed him.

On a visit to soldiers on the front line, he told one Rightist who lectured him: ‘You can’t issue me ultimatums. I’m the president of this country. I am 42 years old. I’m no sucker. I came here to tell you to move your weapons away from the front line.’ But in the end, Mr Zelensky gave in to the pressure, and the peace deal withered away.

Q. Whatever happened to the United Nations, which is supposed to prevent or end wars such as this?

A. I have no idea. It seems to have evaporated.

Written by Peter Hitchens.
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SenpaiDuckie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:54 am Reply with quote
Tangent post, but a reminder to do go back to the topic at hand Smile
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:34 am Reply with quote
For everyone who's worried TP might default on its obligations here, it might be possible to get/order the original novel, if lack of translation is not an issue.

All info in the article points to TP working to release a translation of an existing graphic novel(unfortunately the article doesn't specify who exactly TP are working with(?)...).
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:55 am Reply with quote
NotRussophobia wrote:
Here are some facts about the Ukraine crisis you may not be aware of. I have listed them to try to cool down the hot temper of so much of the debate about this issue, which threatens to widen and deepen an appalling war.


NotRussophobia wrote:

Q. Would it have been possible to change the borders of Ukraine peacefully to avoid this obvious problem?

A. Yes, as European borders are not sacrosanct. The US and the UK, along with dozens of other countries (though not Ukraine), have recognised Kosovo’s breakaway from Serbia in 2008. The whole of the former Yugoslavia has been scissored into many new states, mostly recognised by the majority of nations. Ukraine, for instance, was among the earliest countries to recognise Croatia’s 1991 breakaway from Yugoslavia, then a highly controversial step.


It's true that European borders have changed, but using the former Yugoslavia as an example of peaceful border change ignores several wars, including the 1998-1999 Kosovo War.

NotRussophobia wrote:

Q. What is the biggest political snub in modern history?

A. In March 2007, Vladimir Putin warned very specifically against further expansion of Nato. Just a year later, President George W. Bush announced that he wanted Ukraine to join Nato, wholly aware that his action would infuriate Moscow. It did.


Calling this a list of facts, and then describing NATO's reaction to Putin as "the biggest political snub in modern history" seems to suggest, at the very least, a list that also has opinions.

NotRussophobia wrote:

Q. Is Russia alone in committing alleged atrocities in Ukraine?

A. No. More than one allegation has been made, supported by apparent video evidence, of Ukrainian soldiers killing or maiming captured and helpless Russian prisoners of war. It must be stressed that these claims have not been proven. However, it is incontestable that both Russian and Ukrainian forces were guilty of military actions leading to the deaths of civilians, including children, during the war which has raged since 2014 in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.


Please read about the fallacy of false balance, or presenting two sides as if they were equal, despite the facts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

NotRussophobia wrote:
Written by Peter Hitchens.


Please list the original source:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10703147/PETER-HITCHENS-Marriage-binding-car-lease-children-suffer.html
[Scroll past Peter Hitchens' opinion piece about marriage.]

Then please read some critiques of the opinions expressed by Peter Hitchens here and in the past:
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/05/myths-and-misconceptions-debate-russia/myth-01-russia-and-west-are-bad-each-other
https://www.economist.com/eastern-approaches/2010/09/29/foggy-at-the-bottom
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luisedgarf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:13 pm Reply with quote
In short, Hutchens (and very likely NotRussophobia, considering he only had two posts so far) are Moscow-paid trolls, so please ignore them, and let's talk about the topic, please.
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