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Minos_Kurumada
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 Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:18 pm
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Interesting, seeing the length I suppose it was planned from the beginning.
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everydaygamer
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:19 pm
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| Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | Interesting, seeing the length I suppose it was planned from the beginning. |
Yep Mashima didn't intend for it to be super long. Fairy Tail only endured as long as it did because it was a surprise hit and he felt like he had to keep it going.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:58 pm
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I'm glad it's not getting dragged out as long as Fairy Tail did, and hopefully can end on a good note.
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immblueversion
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:21 pm
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Feels odd to already approach the end when Season 2 is only four months away and will probably stop one arc short of the halfway mark. I have my doubts whether the adaptation will continue beyond that, but since I much prefer the manga anyway, I guess there's no sense acting too upset.
| Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | Interesting, seeing the length I suppose it was planned from the beginning. |
In terms of length, not exactly. He definitely planned out the most important beats of the story (and in my opinion, they include some of the biggest and best payoffs he's ever made), but everything in between those beats was made up as he went along, and usually feel more underdeveloped, rushed, or both.
He guessed early on that it'd be longer than Rave Master (296 chapters) but shorter than Fairy Tail (545 chapters), but given what I just mentioned, and his later estimate that we have at least 80-odd chapters to go at this point (chapter 221), it may only barely go past Rave Master.
All I know is that Mashima set up the final arc by playing the card I was sure he'd use for the very end, so now anything goes.
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smurky turkey
Joined: 30 Jan 2022
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:42 am
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| MFrontier wrote: | | I'm glad it's not getting dragged out as long as Fairy Tail did, and hopefully can end on a good note. |
Agreed, as much as I love Fairy Tail, it went on for too long for me.
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topgun97
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:52 am
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| MFrontier wrote: | | I'm glad it's not getting dragged out as long as Fairy Tail did, and hopefully can end on a good note. |
Agreed, as much as I love Fairy Tail, it went on for too long for me. |
What’s funny is that I actually didn’t mind FT’s length. If I enjoy a story I actually prefer it going on for a long time than for it to end. That’s just me. FT is still going on with the 100 Year Quest manga but I feel that’s also going to end soon, maybe by the end of 2023. The only problem with FT for me was the rushed final villains. Achnologia and Zeref, oh boy. The final two fights that the series was leading up to was a letdown.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:17 am
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| topgun97 wrote: |
| smurky turkey wrote: |
| MFrontier wrote: | | I'm glad it's not getting dragged out as long as Fairy Tail did, and hopefully can end on a good note. |
Agreed, as much as I love Fairy Tail, it went on for too long for me. |
What’s funny is that I actually didn’t mind FT’s length. If I enjoy a story I actually prefer it going on for a long time than for it to end. That’s just me. FT is still going on with the 100 Year Quest manga but I feel that’s also going to end soon, maybe by the end of 2023. The only problem with FT for me was the rushed final villains. Achnologia and Zeref, oh boy. The final two fights that the series was leading up to was a letdown. |
Yeah, I think the story was kind of running on fumes by that point even if I enjoyed some of the final fights.
(The arc still deserved a better anime adaption).
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Artemis X
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:12 pm
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| MFrontier wrote: | | Yeah, I think the story was kind of running on fumes by that point even if I enjoyed some of the final fights.
(The arc still deserved a better anime adaption). |
I forget which opening it was, but that opening that made it feel like Natsu and Lucy were alone in a desolate post-apocalyptic world after it was ravaged by the Dragons and the world itself was just completely destroyed with all the FT dragon slayers scattered to the wind. That is the setting and ending I had in my mind when I watched FT for the first time. Those were the stakes that had I hoped for with Achnologia. What we actually got was just a regular typical every ordinary battle against the spriggan from the Alvarez Empire that were reduced to just 1v1 battles and had no other reason for being there with Zeref and in fact some of them survived no purpose outside of just the final conflict, that Hiro had to find ways to kill his own villains. Also, the main instigator and antagonist of the series, was devoid of any motivations and goals in the story and was reduced to "Because I want to conquer the world bwahah" King of Dragons and we didn't even get to see the result buildup of E.N.D, like holy shit you couldn't have come up with something a little bit deeper and interesting. About the only redeeming part of the ending was Zeref and Mavis’s story.
Though I can't complain because Hiro Mashima works his ass off, he is the one mangaka that every other author idolized and wishes they had the time, strength and commitment to work on so many projects at once. Still maybe he took on to much? And that sort of compromised the quality of FT and he felt like he was backed in a corner and just needed to rush its ending. I have to be honest though, out of all the big shonens I have watched, FT is pretty much at the very bottom. Even bleach had more depth to its characters and fleshed out there backstories and it made sense in the grand scheme of everything.
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