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minakichan
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Bleh. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Sure, I loved Death Note. What I don't love is the shameless money-whoring. I realize that this is all a part of capitalism (and the alternative to capitalism is much worse), but still. Trying to cash already ruined the series itself (see post-hiatus arcs of Death Note), but all this L still is pushing everything way too far. |
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violented16
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Ya it's just another way to whore more money out of Death Note, but if it is written well it may be cool to see the "fight" from L's side. I may not grab it as soon as its available but it could be something great for people who loved Death Note, as always stuff like this is really hit or miss.
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Andrew Cunningham
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The movies have a very different ending from the manga, and it's sort of hard to mention any specifics about the L spin off movie without spoiling that.
But it sounds like it could be a very interesting project. Wonder who M is... Miyabe Miyuki? I think they've been pretty careful not to milk the franchise. The Death Note prequel novel, for instance, is actually really good - instead of just knocking it out, they went and got NisiOisin, one of the best writers in Japan. (I feel like I should mention that I translated the novel for Viz, but can't figure out how to do that without coming across like I'm bragging or doing some advance marketing.) |
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Pityless/Envy
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(Maybe if it's written in brackets..
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Anyway, I don't think the "spinoff" will be on the same level as the original. It probably wont be as intruging considering we already know what will happen. Who knows. It might turn out to be great. |
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tygerchickchibi
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Don't care, getting it. >.>;;;;
I'd rather get this than watching and seeing the whoring of High School Musical any day. |
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fighterholic
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I guess it's time to look through the "M" section of the encyclopedia for clues, but the movie is going to be something to look forward to for sure.
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Ai no Kareshi
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I thought the article mentioned that the M stands for "mu" (無: void). The author's real name might have nothing to do with the letter M at all. |
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mjgeo
 Posts: 133 Location: Australia |
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Just a question for the more negative posters.
Is it whoring the series if the book ends up being good? |
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minakichan
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Yes. I wholeheartedly believe that whoring has been good for something somewhere sometime in more than one instance. (This is why capitalism, despite its many flaws, is still the best system out there.) If you ask me to name an example, I can't, but I know it's happened before. Certain Hollywood sequels that people actually LIKED could be considered positive whoring (I won't name any names because whether people think there were good or not is very subjective). However, I do believe that whoring is generally bad. Because while I have some difficulty thinking of good whoring, I can think of a LOT of bad whoring. I also can't think of anything amazing that could come out of, say, an L photobook. And if you're a romantic, there's always the idea of whoring polluting the artistic merit of X media as a whole. |
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BleuVII
 Posts: 672 Location: Tokorozawa, Japan |
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So, I guess most anime is whored, huh? Like anything that came out of Square Jump V.1 a couple weeks ago, or the fact that a series gets a second season. Or a second volume for that matter. Let's face it, anime is a market-driven enterprise that only exists because there are consumers to sell it to. If that's too tough of a pill to swallow, then maybe people need to find a new hobby. I have yet to see anyone whore out basket weaving or knitting.
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tygerchickchibi
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The question is... Do you really want to? ....Speaking of which...Pokemon has been whored practically for almost 10 years now. And Power Rangers... >.>;; ... Not just anime, but so has Star Wars, Harry Potter, the Powerpuff Girls, Foster's... .....I can keep going if you'd like. |
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coolerimmortal
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Guys, keep in mind, the L novel, Another Note (which I know has no relation to this film) was narrated by...Mello.
There's an M for you. |
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Goodpenguin
Posts: 457 Location: Hunt Valley, MD |
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minakichan wrote:
Just as a quick aside, I get your drift about milking products of value until they are creatively bone dry, but your using 'capitalism' in the style of European slang to mean 'thing involving money I don't like'. There's Greek plays that make sarcastic reference to Athenian merchants hawking derivative goods of popular imported wares (and you can find similar sentiment/commentary through Roman, Byzantine, Victorian, Edwardian etc. times), so I think the old 'lets shake the cash cow' was safely in the business DNA long before capitalism came on the scene. Capitalism is (loosely) just a system of non-government centralized, market-driven economic forces; people have been looking to bang out easy money in every stripe of system ever conceived. Andrew Cunningham wrote:
Sounds like a fun line of work. As a bonus quick aside though, calling Nishio Ishin 'one of the best writers in Japan' could be a bit of a stretch. He's indeed a very popular figure in the 'light novel' scene (re: Young Adult) and I believe a regular in a popular 'otaku' oriented literary mag, but praise withstanding that's still a niche oriented segment aimed (largely) at teen readers. Maybe I just missed it, but has he started writing in a general 'adult fiction' vein? |
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Andrew Cunningham
Posts: 443 Location: Seattle |
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One of the best writers of his generation would have been more accurate. He's what, twenty seven? I would argue that he never has written light novels. He started out with Kodansha Novels, which are a mainstream publisher. Light novels and manga were clearly a strong influence on his style, but the literary ambition in the Zaregoto series is clearly a lot more extensive that most light novels, even the best of them, ever attempt. His editors wisely made the decision to go with illustrated covers, and his work and the entire Kodansha Box/Faust line seems to have positioned itself to act as a bridge between people who only read light novels and manga, and people who only read more 'legitimate' mainstream fiction. Maijo Otaro is writing for both Kodansha Box and Faust, and he's unquestionably adult; but the bulk of the writers involved in what is probably, at this point, worth calling a new literary movement seem to be writing what they want to write and not really giving a damn if its called a light novel or accepted as adult fiction. Essentially, I think arguing about how the books ought to be labeled is a moot point that gets in the way of the discussing the merits of the books themselves. Eddie Campbell's been carrying on a one man war against the term 'graphic novel' for the same reason. It took Higashino Keigo until last year before people finally got past the notion that he was just a mystery writer and realized just how good he is. NisiOisin writes genre fiction and clearly enjoys it; he's written a few pieces that weren't in his comfort zone, and they've been interesting as well, but not made more legitimate by virtue of not having more pulpy elements. And stylistically his writing is so alive, really stretching the boundaries of what Japanese can do, really showing off the strengths of it as a language. If we're talking writing style alone I stand by my original assertion. But maybe I just like gimmicky overwritten cleverness. Then again, Otsu Ichi's stripped down unobstrusive writing style and Maijo Otaro's colloquial excess both match the kind of stories they're telling perfectly as well. Maybe it's more of a total package deal. NisiOisin's constant wordplay allows him to mix genre elements with flashier light novel techniques, while also leaving him plenty of room to study themes and characters he seems to understand extremely well. I think I've gone way past the point where I was making a coherent point, so I'll stop here. |
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The Xenos
 Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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Some days I wonder if Shueisha is really any better than Disney. The only difference is that we're half a world away, so this stuff seems foreign and distant to us. Meanwhile, it's the same pandering crap. Eh. I didn't care for what I saw of the first movie. If the second one is even more different, for get it. I'll stick with the manga and manga spin off novel. (I believe the anime sticks with that too.) Funny, I thought the movie was based on that novel. Guess not. It's kinda nice to see that Japan can screw up Comics2Film adaptations, or manga2film if you prefer, just like America can. Then again, the Death Note movies were done by Warner's Japan division. I think. That reminds me of something, speaking of whoring out books due to comic book movie adaptations with characters with single letter names. When V for Vendetta came out, Warners wasn't content with selling the original comic trade paperback / graphic novel. The idiots actually had someone write an adaptation of the film script. Ugh. They did do the same thing for Batman Begins, but at least there they had original Batman author, and co creator of Ra's Al Ghul, Denny O'Neil write the damn book. |
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