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PR: GDH Implements an Open-Pricing Model in the Online Distribution of New Titles




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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:15 pm Reply with quote
For online distribution, I'd say about 5 cents might be worth it. Sorry, I own nothing in the end. And they better not be expecting us to fork over like mindless japanese otaku for shows that will likely be lolgonzo suckfests like most of their titles have been lately.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:30 pm Reply with quote
Mindless Japanese Otaku? Get real.

Well in that case, why don't you just research a bit of the series before you decide to download? That way, you don't have to spend that five cents you were probably going to loose from it falling out of the hole in your pocket. =P

-_-; In a way, from the attitude of the above post, I really, really, really hope this doesn't come back to bite anyone in the behind. All it really makes me think of is how many people are just living at home with their parents and not able to find some kind of job or something.

In which I'm probably wrong, but 5 cents was so... 1930's or so.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:53 pm Reply with quote
It's called college.
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Cetus-kun



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:24 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
It's called college.


I'm in college as well and you don't see me complaining. I don't have a job, but I spend the money I get from relatives wisely enough that I still have enough to buy the series I'm interested in. That said I hope GONZO is still going to be doing an ad-based free version of the two shows they're streaming, but I wouldn't mind paying a little for them (though I'm a bit more interested in DRUAGA).
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:31 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
It's called college.


In that case, shouldn't you really be concentrating on schoolwork? =P

College really doesn't have to do anything with your spending habits, you do.

Anyway, this is an odd guess, but I'm thinking that after people pick their prices, they'll probably pick an average "cost of choice "and then go from there to set their price at the end of this experiment.
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mellowpurple



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:41 pm Reply with quote
...why is everyone so negative about this? D:

I think these are great news! <3 really.
It's the best what actually could have happened, I hoped that something like this would come someday for years.

From what I've heard so far donation systems like this work pretty well. I mean, there are tons of fansites out there which finance themselves through donations. Why shouldn't that work with the official companies and creators?

Besides that, I don't think they will just look what people pay and then based on how much was paid set an average cost which everybody has to pay from then. That would be so totally against this new strategy... it just doesn't fit in there at all.

It's a strange phenomena, but it seems that people don't like to pay but donate happily. Just look at the comments at crunchyroll, how much whining and crying and stupid comments there were about having to pay from now on, and look at the comments on the new donation system - people thank him and say they'll surely donate something.

Now that people are not forced to pay anymore, they happily pay to support the creators and the distributors on their own free will.

I think that's awesome and I really hope this test is a success.
Probably I'll also donate a little amount <3~
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:10 pm Reply with quote
You know, people try to excuse pirating on the grounds that the NA companies charge too much and don't respect the creators... but when you offer them stuff directly FROM the creators, for any price the consumer feels appropriate, you get:

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I'd say about 5 cents might be worth it.


Why do I even bother with you people? Seriously, who do I? It's blatantly obvious that you feel entitled to anime for free, and to hell with the families the creators have to feed...
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Goodpenguin



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:13 pm Reply with quote
Just on the overall 'windfall' of the user donation model:

mellowpurple worte:
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It's a strange phenomena, but it seems that people don't like to pay but donate happily.


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Probably I'll also donate a little amount


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...why is everyone so negative about this

From what I've heard so far donation systems like this work pretty well. I mean, there are tons of fansites out there which finance themselves through donations. Why shouldn't that work with the official companies and creators?


I don't think people are 'negative' towards innovation, but in a time with very pressing needs for the industry to start pioneering some realistic revenue fixes, 'pay watcha' feel' is the commercial equivalent of a freshman bull-session. Or in otherwords, underwhelming and gimmicky. And on your latter point, obviously, the commercial anime industry, with it's extremely costly production cycle, isn't exactly the best equivalent to an internet fansite.

Overall though, and just 100% fire-roasted speculation, I still see this as GDH looking to toss out two particular titles to as many viable outlets possible more than a general industry move to places like Cruncyroll. And keeping with the speculation note, I still see that gimmicky 'donation' price angle as perhaps as much from Crunchyroll's side as GDH's, needing some type of money coming in, but not wanting to harm/lower their viewer levels.
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mellowpurple



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:09 pm Reply with quote
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pay watcha' feel' is the commercial equivalent of a freshman bull-session. Or in otherwords, underwhelming and gimmicky. And on your latter point, obviously, the commercial anime industry, with it's extremely costly production cycle, isn't exactly the best equivalent to an internet fansite.


ah, you're right...that's some point, I agree.

Concerning the comparison of the anime industry with fansites:
Of course these two are on completely different levels, but I think they're somehow comparable in structure.
You know, fans do something for other fans - perhaps creating an ava, translate something, just provide a site with lot's of information - whatever; And the people pay enough to keep this running and perhaps to give those people a little reward for what they're doing.
But all that material on these sites usually is originally created by some ( big ) production companies. Those people live of what they're doing, they are the ones who originally produce the whole content on the fansite . We could surely live without fansites when a&m still around, but without the production companies fans would have nothing concerning a&m anymore.
So the contribution of the companies obviously is a lot higher then that of the fansites, which is why they also should get more money for their work. I actually hoped that more people would see it like is.
Well, if you think about it, to whom would you rather donate more - some nice little fansite or the author of your favorite work?

It seems that at least with the Radiohead album that system worked quite well.

>freshman bull-session
That's sure the right word for it, lol.
If I also may throw in some speculation.
At the moment it looks to me like GDH is testing on what marketing model works the best. With those 3 sites on which the new shows are broadcastet: BostTV, YouTube, Crunchyroll - we also have three different marketing systems.
BostTV with the usual ( some kind of ) DRM-protected download to rent; probably some extra specials for people who watch it there regulary.
YouTube well, who doesn't know youtube nowadays? Possibly a lot of new fans who theoretically could buy stuff ( HQ, dvd, merchandise... ) , but crappy quality of the videos. Also money through ads.
Crunchyroll slightly better video quality than youtube and pay-what-you-want HQ video download. Moreover most of the people on this site probably got most of their stuff illegally before, but were eventually donating to some (fan)sites, including crunchyroll itself. A big chance in my opinion. Now the industry can get money through ads and pay-what-you-want from the people who practically payed nothing before. Moreover, they're in direct contact with the fans.

Although Crunchyroll has done a lot of things which may have upset people in the past, but I still think this system is best.

Concerning GDH, it's obvious that they don't do this because of love to the fans, if the industry where having good times they'd probably not even think about that model.
But ah well, I actually do not care too much why they're doing it now exactly, I'm just happy that someone finally does it.
And still I'd speculate that if this test is a success we won't have to wait too long before more anime is delivered on that way :)
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britannicamoore



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:25 pm Reply with quote
Even though i'm happy with this the first or second episodes (if I enjoy them) won't get as much as the rest. Heres hoping they do a good job.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:15 pm Reply with quote
mellowpurple wrote:
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Now that people are not forced to pay anymore


O_o as far as I know, no one is even forcing you to watch the show. You make it sound like the industry is really being a bully or something...It sounds more than just childish. Anime hyper;
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mellowpurple



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:09 pm Reply with quote
tygerchickchibi wrote:
mellowpurple wrote:
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Now that people are not forced to pay anymore


You make it sound like the industry is really being a bully or something...It sounds more than just childish. >_<;


lol, sorry, I didn't intend to.
But you know what I meant. You're able to watch the shows without necessarily having to pay.
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