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NEWS: Amazon, Borders, Baker & Taylor Face Challenges




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RoverTX



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:15 am Reply with quote
Amazon laying people off kind of surprises me. I would think they would be doing well just like Wal-mart, since they kind of are the online Wal-mart(besides WalMart.com) after all. I have been shopping a lot with them recently because they actually have not only Anime in stock, unlike Best Buy, but electrics and games, unlike Best Buy, as well.
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FeralKat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:18 am Reply with quote
I'm really surprised that Amazon is feeling the pinch. I've been getting all my DS, PSP, and PS2 games from them because it's cheaper than Game Stop. I thought more people would be shopping online more than ever right now.
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Sheleigha



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:07 am Reply with quote
It's interesting too, because lately I've noticed on prices of say, games on Amazon (at least .ca, but I believe I've seen it on .com as well) are lower than ANY retailer by a few dollars. Even anime every now and then have sales and are very decently priced, in comparison to other places.

...it sure is sad just seeing HOW many people are losing their jobs!
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mrgetalife



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:22 am Reply with quote
Amazon can lay everyone off except for the webmaster. They just force the manufacturer to sell straight to the consumer or have a "shop" do it for them.
Anyways the major danger is the B&M bookstores. If they go then the book industry takes a dive.
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se37



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:05 am Reply with quote
Everyone is hurting due to the recession and cutting back on everything but the basics. The only reason I see Walmart getting more money is because it's cheaper to buy food and all from Walmart at those so called Super Walmart stores. Because Amazon and all that don't sell basic need items like food, they are hurting too.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:27 am Reply with quote
mrgetalife wrote:
Anyways the major danger is the B&M bookstores. If they go then the book industry takes a dive.

Are you talking about "B&N?" Barnes and Noble?
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ebilness



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:43 am Reply with quote
fighterholic wrote:
mrgetalife wrote:
Anyways the major danger is the B&M bookstores. If they go then the book industry takes a dive.

Are you talking about "B&N?" Barnes and Noble?


B&M = Brick and Morter

But yeah, kinda shocked about Amazon too. Though, it may be that they ordered products before the economy started getting really bad so they probably have a lot of stock that isn't moving. Doesn't really matter how well some stock goes if you have a warehouse full of items that aren't moving. Especially if it's high end stuff that people are just going without nowadays.
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Elfen Noir



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:45 am Reply with quote
I read an article lately about the US Post Office closing some distribution centers and since Amazon is so closely tied through those, possibly their distribution centers are related? I know I've also been personally buying more through Amazon lately, too.

I'm surprised at Baker & Taylor, though. You'd think libraries, alone, would keep them afloat. Taxes aren't going down anywhere and most libraries are funded through taxes and with this economy more people are probably using their local library more thus more ordering.
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ebilness



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:03 am Reply with quote
Elfen Noir wrote:

I'm surprised at Baker & Taylor, though. You'd think libraries, alone, would keep them afloat. Taxes aren't going down anywhere and most libraries are funded through taxes and with this economy more people are probably using their local library more thus more ordering.


Well, not all libraries use Baker & Taylor. Some buy direct from Scholastic, some use Ingram, there's BWI and their pre-bound books, etc. Just like consumers, libraries have options too.

Also, just because more people are using libraries doesn't mean they can order more. They have the same budget as they've always had. Plus they never get a full 100% of what they're suppose to get (people not paying their taxes). Plus, a some foreclosures have 'back taxes' on them and in this economy, there are more foreclosures happening, so they could be getting less.
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Hagaren_Otaku726



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:06 am Reply with quote
Like everyone else, I didn't expect Amazon.com to have as many problems as it's having. I do a lot of my manga shopping there, now that my local Borders went way downhill on their manga selection.

I'm definitely seeing my local Borders decline. The manga section used to be 8 large (around 7ft. tall) shelves packed with books. Now I think they've got it down to 4 large shelves, last time I went, and that was a few weeks ago.
It seemed like every time I went it got smaller, and I can imagine the trend might continue until the manga cows start actually purchasing a fraction of the books they're clogging up the aisles to read =D (Or just until the economy gets better. Either way.)
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bdogthehog



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:28 pm Reply with quote
ebilness wrote:
fighterholic wrote:
mrgetalife wrote:
Anyways the major danger is the B&M bookstores. If they go then the book industry takes a dive.

Are you talking about "B&N?" Barnes and Noble?


B&M = Brick and Morter

But yeah, kinda shocked about Amazon too. Though, it may be that they ordered products before the economy started getting really bad so they probably have a lot of stock that isn't moving. Doesn't really matter how well some stock goes if you have a warehouse full of items that aren't moving. Especially if it's high end stuff that people are just going without nowadays.


Digital data is definitely on the rise as well so the Brick and morter stores as well as tangible book publishers are feeling the burn. I work for a company that was created by two IT industry publisher competitors that joined forces to provide their content digitally and online in order to "stay with the times"
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Shepperoni



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:38 pm Reply with quote
That is shocking about Amazon. I too do a lot of anime/manga shopping from them. They were like the first place I bought from online, since my Barnes & Noble and Best buy started getting lazy on stocking new items.
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