Forum - View topicREVIEW: Bleach: The DiamondDust Rebellion DVD
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LordPrometheus
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Couldn't disagree more, actually. I loved DDR (ha, acronyms ftw) and thought it was even better than Memories of Nobody. I felt that for an extended filler episode, it did its job quite well, which was to entertain me with the Bleach universe for an hour and a half without being stupid comedy crap.
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Greed1914
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That's why I don't get worked up when a series or a movie takes some liberties with the source material. |
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John Casey
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I couldn't agree more. Even for Bleach storytelling standards, this one was below subpar.
Why bother centering a movie around one of the least interesting characters? That's a recipe for failure... |
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louieatrest
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I do not think its fear of stepping on the main story that drives the fillers to be so bland. I think its just laziness. I am going to guess that your computer metaphor is not far wrong. The drama could center around revealing character, and still not step on the main story, but that would take effort.
I also think that its difficult to peg down the people in Bleach. I do not think that anyone can describe any character satisfactorily in one sentence. I think that is the true power of Bleach, the expression of complex characters within the manga/anime framework. I think that is the true talent of Tite Kube, and its not easily copied or recreated ( or explained!). |
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pachy_boy
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That still sounds like the first Bleach film, which I thought made it so wonderful. Next to the first movie, this one is more of an action film that could be considered closer in spirit to the TV series. It's because of that DDR didn't do as much for me as MON, because when something is more action and less sympathetic character drama it doesn't stay with me as much. Even so, if you're a Bleach fan, it's not impossible at all to enjoy the second movie regardless and watch our favorite characters experience a brand-new adventure. |
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Hardgear
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While normally I would agree with you and logically this makes sense, it seems like the least interesting characters always end up being the fan favorites. And those legions of drooling fans will buy anything centered around said uniteresting characters, which means that while the movie may be a failure by artistic standards it is still a success by monetary standards, and to be honest that is all that matters to the producers. I am surprised the Naruto guys haven't made a Gaara movie yet (that I know of, I dont keep track of them if they are not released in the US..), that would probably make billions... |
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Ranemoraken
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The problem with these fillers is that the villains are predominantly uninteresting and are carbon copies of all the villains beforehand. Why can't we get a villain that challenges the characters beyond being evil? DDR's villain could have done that, but he's so obviously wrong it isn't funny.
It'd be great if the villains had the same sort of friendship the heroes did, with someone screaming "Kujaku! YOU HAVE TO GET UP! YOU HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING!" But no, we don't get that...it's so boring instead. |
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jr240483
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Ya think?I'm susprised that hasn't happened as yet cause just like garra,the Japanese version had a full load of fans for the main character (Toshiro) for this movie. Also though i agree that the dub version was far superior to the sub in this movie,i disagree with the storyline cause it was really interesting to me. Sure it has it drags,but it's a really decent movie in my view.The first one i saw on Adult Swim was good,but too sad and teary eyed of an ending for my tastes. overall it's a good movie for these basic long shouen series like this and it's a definate must have for toshiro fans. Overall: Dub: A- Sub: C+ Story: B- Art: B- Animation: B- Music: B+ |
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RogueJedi86
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I love how Bleach's dub keeps matching or exceeding the sub. It seems like Bleach is rapidly establishing itself as one of those series with a great dub. It's nice to have it in the upper echelons alongside dubs like Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Death Note.
With AS having aired Memories of Nobody, I wonder if they'll air DiamondDust Rebellion. The movie was in the Top 3 ratings for the Saturday it aired, hopefully that's a precedent for us seeing the dub DDR on AS one day. 
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ArthurFrDent
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heh, I was most amused with Mayuri Kurotsuchi's playing of the pipe-organ-as-computer... I find Toshiro to be very interesting, because of the potential to explore, what is going on with him. Sadly, they seem to have failed pretty spectacularly. The pat answers about what went on during the academy, doesn't match well with the Toshiro we are dealing with currently.
For my money there were lots of little vignettes that I liked, and they were just not explored. spoiler[Particularly Matsumoto, and her relationship with Toshiro. The whole relying on your people really needed to be deeper about them. It was kinda glossy, and it worked out as expected, but how they got from her watching him leave without saying anything and him telling her to watch his back, could have been so much better done. Other little moments like Nanao crying over Shunsui Kyōraku are important thing too...] There are a lot of good moments there, that don't get pulled together well... IMHO Ichigo could well have been the catalyst for everything, without them focussing on him quite so much. They try TOO hard to include everybody... but having each person take center stage for a moment is too much, when it is as good to see them working, doing their thing. Last edited by ArthurFrDent on Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ninjaclown
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Considering movies based on ongoing TV series don't rate to well on this site, this review was quite flattering.
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belvadeer
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I have a feeling it will. AS wouldn't pass up this chance I'm sure. My friend brought the Japanese sub-only DVD to my place back at the beginning of this year and I have to be honest, it was entertaining enough to keep me glued. But, there were times my eyes wandered away because of what Carl described. I did find the angst scenes happened at the wrong times, cutting in when they shouldn't have. But Carl, I can't agree with your dragon-bashing. Said villain's ice dragon form really kicked ass. Yes, you heard it from me, the "dragons need to be in more anime" fanatic
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Hardgear
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Well, they DO have an entire long-running Shonen series dedicated entirely to their balls, if that matters 
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Youkai Warrior
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Anime movies based on TV series usually don't turn out that well. They are however, entertaining, but I can see why Carl said to stick with the TV series.
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ZelloBear
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In the case of trying to bring life to a more minor character, I thought the movie was some-what effective in highlighting why Toshiro is very closed off and drawing parallels to Ichigo, and therefore creating a stronger connection between the two. I might be reading to much into it tho. Anyway, I found this movie to be much more entertaining than the painful first, but a tad cliche.
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