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PR: J-Pop's Number 1 Idol from Hello! Project to Appear at World Premiere Screening of Kai-Ki: Tales




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pepper_gray



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:19 am Reply with quote
Good for ManoEri. I'm glad to see that she will be performing after all. <3 She had said she was going to LA but I guess it was pretty apparent she wasn't going to AX after that one staffer pretty much blasted her on the forums. Way to keep up good relations with Hello!Project, guyz. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:16 am Reply with quote
pepper_gray wrote:
Good for ManoEri. I'm glad to see that she will be performing after all. <3 She had said she was going to LA but I guess it was pretty apparent she wasn't going to AX after that one staffer pretty much blasted her on the forums. Way to keep up good relations with Hello!Project, guyz. Rolling Eyes
i can't find any official cancellation of that so as far as I can tell she's still going
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:04 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
pepper_gray wrote:
Good for ManoEri. I'm glad to see that she will be performing after all. <3 She had said she was going to LA but I guess it was pretty apparent she wasn't going to AX after that one staffer pretty much blasted her on the forums. Way to keep up good relations with Hello!Project, guyz. Rolling Eyes
i can't find any official cancellation of that so as far as I can tell she's still going


I got the inside scoop that the current CEO and management team are not allowing her to participate at AX for one reason or another-which I am not surprised about with this management team and all the messes that have been happening, i.e. upsetting huge industry companies, terminating long standing volunteers that do not agree with their practices and "nickel and diming" the attendees. But, for the Japanese that are interested in the U.S. market, to decide to do something outside of AX does say something about this current management team. And what's even better is that there are no $75 badges to buy and is a better deal. The tickets are $20 for the first show and $15 for the second...The film is around 2 hours and Mano-chan will be performing a live mini-concert AND Meet/Greet/Q&A session! That is under $7/hr for the first showing and $5/hr for the second.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:34 pm Reply with quote
Uhh... This press release is pretty flippant. Actually, it's hard to tell that a little bit, even if the first paragraph still does seem that way, but then there's a piece of contextual information missing from the press release that makes it moreso: the press contact and (apparently) person behind the event.

Which is Chase Wang, the person who used to be press head at AX and one of the key people removed from the staff after the shakeup. I got the PR in my email box, too, and BAM appears right in the bottom of the website.

So when you've got the person who used to run promotions for AX starting out with a paragraph asking if you're sick and tired of anime conventions (like the one that'll be running right next door and all around this event that HE USED TO BE INVOLVED WITH), that you should come to the event where you only pay for the event rather than admission (like, oh, that anime convention running next door), I smell someone trying to pull a pretty flippant PR stunt.

Factsheet: calling you out on your post. Your first post on this board, and that's what you write? Question: how did you get an inside scoop on this? And how can you back it. While I can't prove it, everything about your post strikes me as "(poorly) executed plant". Seriously.

Let me try logic: If she won't be able to participate at AX, it'll be because Chase has every reason to make sure she doesn't, and only does this event instead (if he's involved with the guest process - on this one I will break my rule and use your argument - I have inside insight to believe that he would be involved). Normally like any good event organizer. But every piece of evidence already out there seems to point to Chase not leaving on good terms with AX (probably deep understatement). Someone with an ax (no pun intended) to grind. :/

ONE MORE EDIT: Scheduling the second show against AKB48 at Anime Expo performing right next door at the Nokia Theatre? I have an opinion on that. But frankly, if I said such things, I'd probably be opening a can of worms. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:19 pm Reply with quote
jtnishi wrote:
Uhh... This press release is pretty flippant. Actually, it's hard to tell that a little bit, even if the first paragraph still does seem that way, but then there's a piece of contextual information missing from the press release that makes it moreso: the press contact and (apparently) person behind the event.

Which is Chase Wang, the person who used to be press head at AX and one of the key people removed from the staff after the shakeup. I got the PR in my email box, too, and BAM appears right in the bottom of the website.

So when you've got the person who used to run promotions for AX starting out with a paragraph asking if you're sick and tired of anime conventions (like the one that'll be running right next door and all around this event that HE USED TO BE INVOLVED WITH), that you should come to the event where you only pay for the event rather than admission (like, oh, that anime convention running next door), I smell someone trying to pull a pretty flippant PR stunt.

Factsheet: calling you out on your post. Your first post on this board, and that's what you write? Question: how did you get an inside scoop on this? And how can you back it. While I can't prove it, everything about your post strikes me as "(poorly) executed plant". Seriously.

Let me try logic: If she won't be able to participate at AX, it'll be because Chase has every reason to make sure she doesn't, and only does this event instead (if he's involved with the guest process - on this one I will break my rule and use your argument - I have inside insight to believe that he would be involved). Normally like any good event organizer. But every piece of evidence already out there seems to point to Chase not leaving on good terms with AX (probably deep understatement). Someone with an ax (no pun intended) to grind. :/

ONE MORE EDIT: Scheduling the second show against AKB48 at Anime Expo performing right next door at the Nokia Theatre? I have an opinion on that. But frankly, if I said such things, I'd probably be opening a can of worms. Razz


That is kind of retarded to request that the press contact be put on a press release...do you see it on any other press release that is put out on ANN??? Who cares if Chase Wang is involved with this event or not? And the press release doesn't say "sick and tired" dude...learn to read....lol....seriously....
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jtnishi



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:43 pm Reply with quote
Factsheet wrote:
jtnishi wrote:
Uhh... This press release is pretty flippant. Actually, it's hard to tell that a little bit, even if the first paragraph still does seem that way, but then there's a piece of contextual information missing from the press release that makes it moreso: the press contact and (apparently) person behind the event.

Which is Chase Wang, the person who used to be press head at AX and one of the key people removed from the staff after the shakeup. I got the PR in my email box, too, and BAM appears right in the bottom of the website.

So when you've got the person who used to run promotions for AX starting out with a paragraph asking if you're sick and tired of anime conventions (like the one that'll be running right next door and all around this event that HE USED TO BE INVOLVED WITH), that you should come to the event where you only pay for the event rather than admission (like, oh, that anime convention running next door), I smell someone trying to pull a pretty flippant PR stunt.

Factsheet: calling you out on your post. Your first post on this board, and that's what you write? Question: how did you get an inside scoop on this? And how can you back it. While I can't prove it, everything about your post strikes me as "(poorly) executed plant". Seriously.

Let me try logic: If she won't be able to participate at AX, it'll be because Chase has every reason to make sure she doesn't, and only does this event instead (if he's involved with the guest process - on this one I will break my rule and use your argument - I have inside insight to believe that he would be involved). Normally like any good event organizer. But every piece of evidence already out there seems to point to Chase not leaving on good terms with AX (probably deep understatement). Someone with an ax (no pun intended) to grind. :/

ONE MORE EDIT: Scheduling the second show against AKB48 at Anime Expo performing right next door at the Nokia Theatre? I have an opinion on that. But frankly, if I said such things, I'd probably be opening a can of worms. Razz


That is kind of retarded to request that the press contact be put on a press release...do you see it on any other press release that is put out on ANN??? Who cares if Chase Wang is involved with this event or not? And the press release doesn't say "sick and tired" dude...learn to read....lol....seriously....


Oh, I'm not saying that ANN is under any obligation to do anything to change how it publishes it's press releases. It certainly isn't. Just that contextual information behind the press release gives the press release a different way to read it. An interpretation that a person who retains a healthy skepticism about things might actually be interested in pondering.

Attendees, perhaps, don't care about whether Chase is involved. In the end, all they see is "OMG ERINA MANO" or something. However, some of us who like actually pondering the politics of what the heck is going on behind the scenes of these events, and what's going on in the thought process of the people that organize these things, care sometimes about the quality of sources. And since you chose to make an interpretation of those politics by claiming inside information answering "why", I think you've clearly pointed out the relevance of that information.

I apologize. Sad and worried. Not sick and tired. My mistake. Feel free to believe that that somehow invalidates the complete and whole of my argument, if it makes you feel better. Me? I think reading sick and tired out of the press release, given what I hear from friends sometime who say they want to ghost conventions because they don't afford the increasing cost of badges, seems perfectly in line with sad and worried.

EDIT: For everyone else, the Press Release was revised in the time after I made this comment. Revision 2 is the revision that was on display at the time.
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