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Jaymie



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:24 pm Reply with quote
I love how the Japanese parties are Liberal Democratic and Democratic. Even if they're split into different parties, it's still a case of white and gray.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:44 pm Reply with quote
Jaymie wrote:
I love how the Japanese parties are Liberal Democratic and Democratic. Even if they're split into different parties, it's still a case of white and gray.


Only in name. The LDP is fairly conservative.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:53 pm Reply with quote
I remember this exact conversation from roughly a year ago.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:56 pm Reply with quote
I hope power doesn't shift to the LDP even more since they are anything but "liberal", more like the complete antithesis actually.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:00 pm Reply with quote
Jaymie wrote:
I love how the Japanese parties are Liberal Democratic and Democratic. Even if they're split into different parties, it's still a case of white and gray.


Liberal in this case is referring to economic liberalism, where as in America the word liberal is a reference to social liberalism. So the Liberal Democratic party is the equivalent of the republican party.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:40 pm Reply with quote
What a coincidink. Dems blowing their majorities in two countries now. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:47 pm Reply with quote
Kinda like how the Dems will be over here come midterm elections.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:14 pm Reply with quote
I guess "lame duck" is not a common phrase in Japan.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:33 pm Reply with quote
could i request that this topic not turn into one about american politics? Wink
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Anime World Order



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:43 am Reply with quote
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The original quote omae wa mō shindeiru, translated as "you're already dead," is a phrase frequently uttered by Fist of the North Star protagonist Kenshirō before the final blow in a battle


On the contrary, it is a phrase uttered by Kenshiro AFTER the final blow in a battle. It's not a proclamation that he's about to bestow a righteous beatdown upon someone; rather, it is a statement that the beatdown has already occurred, he's already won, and the poor sap on the other side doesn't even realize it's happened yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:06 am Reply with quote
Charred Knight wrote:
Jaymie wrote:
I love how the Japanese parties are Liberal Democratic and Democratic. Even if they're split into different parties, it's still a case of white and gray.


Liberal in this case is referring to economic liberalism, where as in America the word liberal is a reference to social liberalism. So the Liberal Democratic party is the equivalent of the republican party.


Yeah, pretty much what he said. The Liberal Democratic Party in Japan (despite the word liberal), is more of a conservative party from an American standpoint. The "liberal" part from the Japanese standpoint refers to their policy of laissez-faire capitalism (economic liberalism). The Democratic Party of Japan is more of a libertarian/liberal party from the American standpoint. In turn, the LDP and the DPJ is probably the Japanese equivalent to Republican and Democratic parties of U.S. respectfully (although their social policies would be far different from the said U.S. political parties).

But didn't Japan entered some sort of 20 so years of recession (or was it stagflation) after their economic bubble burst in the early 1990s along with a very a bad national debt that seems to be unrecoverable? I think that's the reason why the Japanese voted out the LDP out of power in favor of the DPJ last year.

Funny thing during the 1970s and 80s when Japan entered an economic boom, many Americans were fearing that Japan would become a dominant superpower and would take over them. Nowadays, China takes the spot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:43 pm Reply with quote
I expected this article to be about some kind of puppet-government conspiracy where the public thinks the politician is still alive, but in actuality he is dead and his party is being controlled from behind the scenes.

Guess I just watch too much anime. Total letdown... Laughing
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Syobon



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:03 pm Reply with quote
NimbusRain wrote:
I expected this article to be about some kind of puppet-government conspiracy where the public thinks the politician is still alive, but in actuality he is dead and his party is being controlled from behind the scenes.

Guess I just watch too much anime. Total letdown... Laughing


quite truth, modern japanese government is just a facade, doesn't really matter who is elected, like in U.S.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:09 pm Reply with quote
If someone if the US quoted like Spider-Man, they would be portrayed as stupid in the media. At least if they were attacking Barack Obama.
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