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NEWS: Toonzaki: Traffic Up 20% Since Megaupload's Closure


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Mr. sickVisionz



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:34 am Reply with quote
Good for them but sad that for many, free was too much of a price to pay.
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SaiyanHero16



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:37 am Reply with quote
Not surprising.
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peachsncreamsoda



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:26 am Reply with quote
I'm only guessing that 20% is alot...

Anyways, I must be dumb as hell when it comes to this stuff, but why would streaming sites go up?
I thought MU was something used for entirely different reasons...

Now if this were another site that streamed videos and what have you, I could see that. But wasn't MU mainly used for files.
As in, there was a reason why one would want a file version... you could go anywhere to see something streamed...
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:28 am Reply with quote
Megavideo was one of, if not the biggest embedded video host that the many illegal streaming sites would use.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:34 am Reply with quote
peachsncreamsoda wrote:
I'm only guessing that 20% is alot...

Anyways, I must be dumb as hell when it comes to this stuff, but why would streaming sites go up?
I thought MU was something used for entirely different reasons...

Now if this were another site that streamed videos and what have you, I could see that. But wasn't MU mainly used for files.
As in, there was a reason why one would want a file version... you could go anywhere to see something streamed...


Because people are too lazy to torrent or DDL. The biggest complaint people have with legal streams is quality, so the fact people went for illegal streams on Megavideo is just doube laziness and has no real excuse. They couldn't even be bothered to even download the episodes and use the quality excuse.
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:26 am Reply with quote
I wonder how much of that Traffic was people going onto it and then geting region bockclocked?

Because that's a very good reason why piracy still exists. Megaupload going away doesn't make that less of a legitimate issue.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:36 am Reply with quote
See, this is exactly the point of shutting down sites like Megaupload. The point is not to try and eliminate piracy in it's entirety. The point is just to make it more difficult. It's remarkable (and mildly horrifying) how many people pirate simply because they're lazy. There's no complex reasoning behind their choice to pirate. It's as simple as it being ever so slightly easier to watch stuff on megaupload than it is to watch the legal streams. So really, you don't need to make it impossible for people to pirate. You just need to make it mildly inconvenient enough that they'll watch the legal streams instead.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:51 am Reply with quote
Doubtful. A company can claim that "X action gave us Y results." I'd love to see hard proof. With the Megaupload scare, i'd at least imagine people would be seeking other ILLEGAL sources, not legit.

Kinda like how Yen Press claimed a couple years ago that once certain titles they licensed got nuked from scanlation sites, they got an uptick of people buying their manga, when in reality, they were up to X point release wise while the scanlators were near the Y point Japanese wise. You can't translate sales for stuff you never released yet!!
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:08 am Reply with quote
It's actually stats that I could believe. Megavideo embedded streams are practically everywhere when you just type "<name> stream" into Google. Sure, there are other choices/options, but cutting off megavideo is a very, very big thing for illegal streaming.
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Volibear



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:30 am Reply with quote
the news title is kind of deceiving here, i suspect that its not downloaders now turning to streaming sites (i'm sure there are other sites you could turn to if you wanted to have a copy of an episode)
given that MegaVideo and all the other Mega______ sites were taken down as well as MegaUpload, i suspect its all the illegal streamers who now can't view a whole lot without MegaVideo having to turn to proper streaming sites like Toonzaki and Crunchyroll etc. to find working copies of episodes to watch
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:37 am Reply with quote
Volibear wrote:
the news title is kind of deceiving here, i suspect that its not downloaders now turning to streaming sites (i'm sure there are other sites you could turn to if you wanted to have a copy of an episode)
given that MegaVideo and all the other Mega______ sites were taken down as well as MegaUpload, i suspect its all the illegal streamers who now can't view a whole lot without MegaVideo having to turn to proper streaming sites like Toonzaki and Crunchyroll etc. to find working copies of episodes to watch


You bring up an idea. When Megaupload went dark, one has to wonder that Toonzaki got the uptick in users because people were actively seeking out new illegal sources, and got Toonzaki as the first results. They then just left for other pastures.

It's at best a temporary uptick in viewer hits. I'm willing to bet that the uptick is temporary, and will settle back to pre-SOPA/Mega_____ takedown levels. I'd love to see the figures in a weeks time, and a months time.
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J3N0V4



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:03 am Reply with quote
Wow, so that brings the total user base up to 12 people, good for them.

To be serious, I believe in coincidence and this would be one of them. I don't know about over in the states, but down in New Zealand, it's school holidays right now and there has been an increase in TVNZ OnDemand, but you know what, I'm gonna say it's due to MegaUpload getting unfairly taken down because that makes it look like a slightly less morally bankrupt assault on the free internet
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Failachu



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:41 am Reply with quote
20% out of how many people?

For all we know, 2 people might have accidentally stumbled onto their site.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:23 am Reply with quote
Failachu wrote:
20% out of how many people?

For all we know, 2 people might have accidentally stumbled onto their site.


You don't really understand how percentages work do you?
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Melanchthon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:18 am Reply with quote
Let's play a game shall we?
Toonzaki is too small to have any data on alexa, but Crunchy does, and you would expect to see similar results on it too, right?

Here's Crunchyroll's Traffic shares:
Yesterday: +5%
7 day: + 12%
1 month: +11%
3 month: -9%

source: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/crunchyroll.com

And just for fun:
Anime News Network

Yesterday: -30%
7 day: +5%
1 month: +8%
3 month: -3%
source: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/animenewsnetwork.com

What the hell happened yesterday?
Anyway, to me, I don't see any cause or effect here. Crunchyroll's higher number can just as easy be attributed to the new season of shows airing, and overall, Crunchy is still growing it's userbase organically. And kids, remember, correlation does not imply causation.


//Also, ANN gets a slow rating in load time. For shame. What is my subscription paying for anyway? (I keed, i keed, please don't ban me.)
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