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NEWS: Atlus Games' Index Corporation Files for Civil Rehabilitation Bankruptcy


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Micro_Ice



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:25 am Reply with quote
What a shame, I wonder what happened to get such a big debt? I don't belive i've heard of an Atlus game that sold terribly?
Well I guess this means the wait for Persona 5, just got longer since Index wont be able to fund it with that debt.
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mewpudding101
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:31 am Reply with quote
Micro_Ice wrote:
What a shame, I wonder what happened to get such a big debt? I don't belive i've heard of an Atlus game that sold terribly?
Well I guess this means the wait for Persona 5, just got longer since Index wont be able to fund it with that debt.


They bullshitted on their earnings/taxes. This might cause problems in fines. Not to mention it looks like the big-wigs were sneaking money.
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Gasero



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:04 am Reply with quote
Seems like someone might have been cooking the books.

It amazes me that so many companies would rather go into troublesome debt rather than take efforts to stop the bleeding early.

I will definitely try to keep up with this news. I wonder what parts of the company were faltering. I always thought Atlus games were profitable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:17 am Reply with quote
mewpudding101 wrote:
They bullshitted on their earnings/taxes. This might cause problems in fines. Not to mention it looks like the big-wigs were sneaking money.

And now those big-wigs are leaving the sinking ship, it seems.
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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:19 am Reply with quote
This sounds like an auction off of assets prior to winding down of the company business. An orderly way of cleaning up the train wreck without locking the company's doors and sending everyone home, as happens all too often.

Likely Atlus will end up as a part of a larger business or, if they are lucky, a separate company with new and much more responsible ownership.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:28 am Reply with quote
Micro_Ice wrote:
What a shame, I wonder what happened to get such a big debt? I don't belive i've heard of an Atlus game that sold terribly?
Well I guess this means the wait for Persona 5, just got longer since Index wont be able to fund it with that debt.


I wouldn't think it would have much to do with ATLUS. Index has multiple subsidiaries so its possible it could've been one of those that caused it.

I have no clue.
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Ambimunch



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:41 am Reply with quote
Well Persona 5...., Ill see you in 2025....maybe..please?
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:36 am Reply with quote
I guess I'm looking at this differently from everyone else: Index needs Atlus to announce Persona 5's details yesterday. Index needs the money so they need Atlus to produce a guaranteed money-maker to help them out.

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TheZeonicFront



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:51 am Reply with quote
If Atlus is just a branch of Index I can't see one game helping them out of that much debt. They would be better off selling Atlus and keeping the other parts alive.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:59 am Reply with quote
mewpudding101 wrote:
Micro_Ice wrote:
What a shame, I wonder what happened to get such a big debt? I don't belive i've heard of an Atlus game that sold terribly?
Well I guess this means the wait for Persona 5, just got longer since Index wont be able to fund it with that debt.


They bullshitted on their earnings/taxes. This might cause problems in fines. Not to mention it looks like the big-wigs were sneaking money.

Those years of slaving away for LJN have caught up with them!
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SoraChanShadow



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:05 am Reply with quote
So how would this affects the upcoming shin megami tensei x fire emblem cossover game?
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Brand



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:20 am Reply with quote
SoraChanShadow wrote:
So how would this affects the upcoming shin megami tensei x fire emblem cossover game?


Probably, not at all.
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:10 am Reply with quote
brand wrote:
SoraChanShadow wrote:
So how would this affects the upcoming shin megami tensei x fire emblem cossover game?


Probably, not at all.


Not if Nintendo has anything to say about it
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mewpudding101
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:21 am Reply with quote
AiddonValentine wrote:
brand wrote:
SoraChanShadow wrote:
So how would this affects the upcoming shin megami tensei x fire emblem cossover game?


Probably, not at all.


Not if Nintendo has anything to say about it


So far none of the projects are being affected. However, it's unknown what titles still in production are being affected. Best not to make crazy speculations.

But if I must say, social gaming seems like a very bad road to go down. Especially with the recent fall of NadeColle (Nadeshiko Collection) after only half a year or less.
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Kaioshin_Sama



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:34 pm Reply with quote
The article makes it sound like they are going to be allowed to continue operating only under a sort of trusteeship with the courts so that the case against them can proceed unimpeded as well. At least they don't have to totally shut down and do the whole asset freezing thing ala Enron and the like.

Corporations are corrupt and often lie about their assets, who knew? Rolling Eyes
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