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INTEREST: More Art from Defunct Production I.G Snake Plissken Anime Unearthed


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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:58 pm Reply with quote
Hm, this is very interesting to see. Very sad to see this is shelved, well at least these art showed how the Snake Plissken anime would've looked.
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Marzan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:16 pm Reply with quote
Why does this get shelved yet one generic high school romcom after another get's greenlit?

Sigh.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Marzan wrote:
Why does this get shelved yet one generic high school romcom after another get's greenlit?

Sigh.


Yeah I agree, it's sad to see a lot of generic high school and moe/bishojo anime coming out these day. It's like the industry are afraid to take a risk. The anime coming out these day are not as good as it was few years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:49 pm Reply with quote
I re-re concur. This is horse you know what. We're still getting blasted with Moe and panty flashing BS and hardcore stuff like this gets tossed in the garbage. Very sad.

Anyway, I thought snake was dead?
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:59 pm Reply with quote
Lowlife187 wrote:
I re-re concur. This is horse you know what. We're still getting blasted with Moe and panty flashing BS and hardcore stuff like this gets tossed in the garbage. Very sad.


Yeah it sad to see anime has went downhill. Japan is not even making anymore anime with a global audience in mind.
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Zump



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:00 pm Reply with quote
Looking back at what anime was popular in the US in the late 90s and early 2000s, I think Japan was onto something. Too bad nobody noticed, otherwise they would have capitalized, and more titles like this would have been made.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:12 pm Reply with quote
Zump wrote:
Looking back at what anime was popular in the US in the late 90s and early 2000s, I think Japan was onto something. Too bad nobody noticed, otherwise they would have capitalized, and more titles like this would have been made.


Yeah this was before video streaming sites like Hulu, Youtube, and open-minded ness people, and etc... made it easier for anime to watch. But I agreed, if Hulu, Youtube, social media (Facebook, and Twitter) and advanced broadband internet like cable and fiber optic had existed back in the 90's or early 2000's instead of 2005 or 2006, then anime today might not have went downhill and Japan may have exported more then anime/manga (they probably would've exported J-pop music, and J-dramas to ride on the anime/manga fad). I don't understand why Japan has made their anime gone downhill today, the population decline is going to hurt their local market, so the only thing to keep the industry alive is the overseas market. I think at some point Japan will have to make anime catered for overseas fans.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:56 pm Reply with quote
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Kids, you are more annoying than an army of leeches sucking the balls. Rocom, Moe or whatever you want to call it is still more fun to watch than your manly bullshit that was cool maybe in the 80's but not anymore and thank god for that.

I kind of glad that Japanese animators don't give a f....ck about the opinion of people overseas because their taste sucks donkey balls. Go back to your Avatar and your superhero movies, Anime is not for you.


So you prefer to watch boring schoolgirl and ecchi anime over good quality anime like Cowboy Bebop, wow you have [insult removed].
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:07 pm Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
So you prefer to watch boring schoolgirl and ecchi anime over good quality anime like Cowboy Bebop, wow you have a bad taste in anime.


Why not both? And don't give me "there is no both", just look at everyone reacting to Kill la Kill, and I'm sure the same thing will repeat with Space Dandy. For more preemptive arguments against my strawman "But in the late 90s, every single anime was as good as Cowboy Bebop!" Re-check those lists and find out how rare something like Bebop was.

I'm glad you [leave your irrelevant personal conflicts with other posters out of the discussion]
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walw6pK4Alo wrote:
mdo7 wrote:
So you prefer to watch boring schoolgirl and ecchi anime over good quality anime like Cowboy Bebop, wow you have a bad taste in anime.


Why not both? And don't give me "there is no both", just look at everyone reacting to Kill la Kill, and I'm sure the same thing will repeat with Space Dandy. For more preemptive arguments against my strawman "But in the late 90s, every single anime was as good as Cowboy Bebop!" Re-check those lists and find out how rare something like Bebop was.


Because I'm sick of the moe, school dramas, and the ecchi overload that is coming out these day. There's lack of new innovation in anime. I don't see a lot of good anime coming out these day that appeal to me. I don't see an original anime with a innovative plots or something that doesn't have a lot of fanservice. Would you stop assuming I'm a Korean supremacist, you would be no better and different then a pro-Japanese nationalist that claim Japan is superior over all of Asia. I thought anime/manga fans are open-minded to other Asian culture, not being close-minded to one Asian culture like Japan.
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:29 pm Reply with quote
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Well somebody has no understanding of the modern anime industry.

Anyway, the character designs looked really good, shame this got canceled and Madhouse still made that terrible Highlander movie.

Emerje
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Man, I've never seen anyone more wrong before.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:46 pm Reply with quote
I don't know, for me at least this artwork doesn't inspire confidence. Instead of looking like 1980's Kurt Russell, Snake looks more like some lady cosplaying as Kurt Russell. And the designs on some of the women didn't look particularly imaginative or progressive either. I just want to know when Carpenter is going to get to make Escape from Earth.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:07 am Reply with quote
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I don't understand why Japan has made their anime gone downhill today, the population decline is going to hurt their local market, so the only thing to keep the industry alive is the overseas market. I think at some point Japan will have to make anime catered for overseas fans.


Well, their problem in general is that the studios don't own most of the stuff they work on. So they barely get any cut out of the anime, and they screwed out of royalties on merch. Which is actually how the Moe Mafia committees want it. And while I'm sure the studios would like to break out of that rut, too, the American anime market is still only a fraction of the buying power of the otaku. But at least now, the Japanese licensors are actually trying to expand the audience for their more niche properties here a little more. Before, they just just assumed anything would sell, and got burned on too many losing titles.

But, you know, that kind of thing takes time, if you're actually trying to help "create" legit fans, and not just hangers-on who are just pretending to be into anime, because it's trendy. [Basically the main force behind the 2000s anime bubble, and now the comic book movie and YA novel movie bubbles.] So, for now, Hulu, CR, and Youtube are the new anime clubs.

Emerje: Hey, the Highlander anime was good-if you're a Highlander fan.

insert: Well, they'd have to probably have to pay extra to use Russell's likeness. Though maybe he'd be game for the English dub.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:03 am Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
mdo7 wrote:
So you prefer to watch boring schoolgirl and ecchi anime over good quality anime like Cowboy Bebop, wow you [insult removed].


Why not both? And don't give me "there is no both", just look at everyone reacting to Kill la Kill, and I'm sure the same thing will repeat with Space Dandy. For more preemptive arguments against my strawman "But in the late 90s, every single anime was as good as Cowboy Bebop!" Re-check those lists and find out how rare something like Bebop was.


Because I'm sick of the moe, school dramas, and the ecchi overload that is coming out these day. There's lack of new innovation in anime. I don't see a lot of good anime coming out these day that appeal to me. I don't see an original anime with a innovative plots or something that doesn't have a lot of fanservice. Would you stop assuming I'm a Korean supremacist, you would be no better and different then a pro-Japanese nationalist that claim Japan is superior over all of Asia. I thought anime/manga fans are open-minded to other Asian culture, not being close-minded to one Asian culture like Japan.


Just because there isn't anime being made that appeals to you doesn't mean there isn't anything being that is "good". I'm not into moe or harems either, but even then I can try to find at least one thing during each season that is unique or stands out and I will give it a chance. I also think you wouldn't have this attitude about all modern anime if you'd stop using Cowboy Bebop as your barometer for how good an anime should be. I mean, I'm a huge Patlabor fan, but I'm not stacking it up against everything else I see so as to determine if what I'm watching is good or not.

Oh, and if you can't deal with fanservice, then I don't know what to say. Sexualisation of characters in anime (male and female) has been going since at least the 70s. Now, shows that primarily focus on fanservice tend to be not really well-written or directed, but the mere presence of even a little fanservice is going to be impossible to avoid.

And lastly, anime/manga is a Japanese thing. It started in Japan, has almost been exclusively done in Japan (aside from some outsourcing of grunt work to places like Korea, China, and Vietnam, as well the occasional American co-production), and features artistic and directorial characteristics that stem from the Japanese. The last one is especially apparent when watching say, a Korean cartoon, and things like the timing of when the director holds a shot or how a camera moves in a scene feel "different" or "off". This is because there are certain touches that are embedded in anime that aren't really able to be replicated by animators outside of Japan.
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