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Angel M Cazares
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This statement sums up well my overall impression of Oreimo 2 and the franchise in general. I am not a prude and could have easily lived with spoiler[the insinuation or outright incest] if the ending had been well written. Oreimo 2 and the franchise definitely crapped the bed. |
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Engineering Nerd
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The OVA ending definitely ruined this series for me. Although we have entire season 2 that builds up to this conclusion; the sheer wasted potential, mishandling of character development and series of extremely poor writing is just so hard to get passed over it.
I was in Japan the time (visiting my relatives)that final volume of oreimo novel was released. I was quite confused why so many loyal readers that time either burned their collection to ashes or selling the whole thing for 1 yen. After watching the anime ending, although I still consider such actions a bit extreme, at least I can understand why. Just shows how easily a poor ending can ruin the whole series, or invalidate so many aspects that made it special |
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here-and-faraway
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Did anyone else have problems with the final disc? I got mine and the image fragments for a few seconds in a few spots. It doesn't appear to be scratched and my DVD and Bluray players aren't having problems with any other disc.
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Angel M Cazares
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Until you realize that those fans are hypocrites because they still bought almost 30,000 copies combined of the last 2 JP volumes (the discs containing the crap ending) of the anime BD/DVD releases. |
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SilverTalon01
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Or, and I realize this is crazy and off the wall, the 30,000 copies were sold to different fans that didn't burn their LNs or sell them for 1 yen. |
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pachy_boy
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Like a lot of viewers, the ending totally ruined it for me. Up until that point, it had been a cleverly funny and charming series. The incestuous subtext was there as part of its semi-satirical humor, and wouldn't have been so much of a problem if it stayed subtext--which unfortunately it didn't. In hindsight, perhaps we really should not have been surprised by the direction it took, but that doesn't make it any less disappointing. It could've been "interesting" at least if handled right at all, but like Theron said it did irreparable damage to friendships and other could-have-been and arguably preferable relationships for Kyosuke. What %110 killed it for me was how it affected Manami, where Kyosuke didn't merely just break her heart, he flat-out ruined her life with the way they left things off between each other. Seriously, that last shot of her still haunts me to this day. That's how charmed I was by this series until it stabbed me in the face at the end.
I'm so glad I saw these at Otakon, because I would've been damned for paying money for this set (and keeping my first, because there's no way I can rewatch it without thinking of what happens later). Incest elements have been somewhat of a staple in Anime, but thanks to Oreimo I'm officially going out of my way to avoid them (with the one exception of Angel Sanctuary, a story where everything is messed up albeit in a beautiful way). |
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DmonHiro
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MC gave up going out with a beautiful, smart, loyal cosplayer so he could send a weak with his blood sister as boyfriend and girlfriend.
Ending completely ruined the show for me. I never want to hear of it again. And I never want to read or watch anything by this particular author again. Fool me once, shame on you. |
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Eisenmann V
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I really enjoyed the first season, and even most of the second season was at least average, even if Ayase got written badly in another fashion (going from tsun to dere, HARD) and Kuroneko's motivations seemed messy.
But man, is that ending terrible. |
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Redcrimson
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I dunno, the scene where Manami spoiler[gut-punches Kirino with righteous fury] almost made the ending worth it for me. I mean, it totally wasn't worth it at all, but it would have been way worse without it.
Also, the only sensible choice for Kyousuke was clearly Kanako, being the kawaiiest and the only one who actually seemed to have their $%@# together. |
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HaruhiToy
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Part of the job description of being a MC in a male-lead harem series is to be a complete idiot and this plot development took it to epic levels. What makes it worse is prior to that time he was a relatively reasonable character. He had a damaged relationship with his sister that was probably mostly his fault but he evolves and manages to forge a worthwhile and lasting bond with her. And he showed considerable insight and sensitivity fairly regularly, and actually puts forth real effort on her behalf which wins the day. And then this. It would have actually been better if they had woken up in bed with each other one morning and went oh gawd what did we just do. That's how bad their chosen storyline is. The fact that Kirino is an irritating little bitch much of the time is actually not a big problem for me. The negative reaction most people have to her is actually a sign of good acting. And, after all, at least some of it is her brother's fault. Enough might-have-beens. I doubt I'll buy this DVD. I might if it were a BD with a dub, but there are better things to watch now. |
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R. Kasahara
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Watching the OVAs, I felt much like Manami did in that scene. As far as I'm concerned, the final TV episode would've been a perfect way to wrap up the series: questions about Kirino's interest in siscon eroge are answered, and it's a good overview of her overall relationship (as a younger sibling) with Kyosuke. Sure, there would've been a few plot holes left remaining, but I'd take those over the OVAs any day. I snapped up the first season's LE set as soon as I could, but haven't done the same with this one, mainly due to those lousy OVAs. Maybe I'll pick up season two if it gets a standard, lower-priced DVD set, but my Oreimo fandom has cooled enough to the point that it's not a big priority. |
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thofheinz
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I have to say that you summed up my feelings, exactly. As a matter of fact, I remain emotionally certain that the show was supposed to end with the 13th episode, which was psychologically acute and illuminating, then decided to make a big nasty splash on the way out. Maname's line "I came to fight" is one of my favorites. |
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luffypirate
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I don't think I'll ever rewatch this season. Minus the episodes with spoiler[ Kuroneko and Kyousuke] I was not impressed. The ending was a total cop-out.
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Wrathful
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How is this B+? There's nothing really good except a few characters and the story is almost non-existent. Way too generous with the score. As long as the tsundere main character gets the most screentime, at most I'd give C+. I stopped very early but I've heard of the infamous ending. If the ending is bad enough for me to know what's going to happen, it's hardly entertaining. Too bad the first season was bearable.
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Animegomaniac
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That cuts a bit closer to the real problem but on top of it being a consequence free decision {Ahem... How?}, the ending and its "ultimate, bridge burning of fate, destiny and everything else!" choice to the rest of the cast does not matter to either main character. "It" happened, something happened and after a certain point, it ceased to happen? So any investment spent on these characters not only ends in a meaningless conclusion to a relationship either real or pretend {the arbitrary cutoff date would lean towards fake, the treatment of the rest of the cast leans towards real} but also a "Ha, made you care!" sentiment from the writer? Yes, they are teenagers and they make bad decisions, yes, they are "otakus" and have a misaligned view on the people and their relationships... was there a point beyond stating the obvious? Couldn't they change? I would love to say that this is a case of a writer putting "Don't get to attached to fictional characters" in writing but this only came up in the "burning the fields" concluding segments and everything was very engaging prior to that. |
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