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NEWS: New York Times Manga Best Seller List, October 19-25




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7jaws7



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:38 pm Reply with quote
Kinda weird how NGNL volume two isn't even up for pre-order yet.
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FoolsLove



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:43 pm Reply with quote
7jaws7 wrote:
Kinda weird how NGNL volume two isn't even up for pre-order yet.


Because it doesn't exist yet. Latest chapter of the NGNL manga is 7, volume 1 goes up to chapter 6.
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infamoustakai



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:44 pm Reply with quote
Let the NGNL domination begin!
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:25 pm Reply with quote
It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:23 pm Reply with quote
Sunny milk wrote:
It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out.


Loli sexualization still exists in the manga we have today.

And manga are not usually for the casuals.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:37 pm Reply with quote
Sunny milk wrote:
It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out.


are you implying they've removed/edited some of the Shiro fanservice? legitimately curious as i haven't heard anything about this
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:34 pm Reply with quote
I actually meant the anime (yes, the anime removed or tamed all service she had).
By making it appealing to the widest possible fanbase (on the expense of lolicons), it became pretty famous and well received in the west, which is reflected in these sales.
I'm just curious how many of these people will find Shiro's sexualization offensive here.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:43 pm Reply with quote
I saw it as weird but not offensive because it felt like it fit into the show...organically, I suppose? I can't give a really informed opinion though since I didn't see the show through. Loli service usually squicks me out, but I dropped the show for other reasons.
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:46 am Reply with quote
Yes; that was my point: the show tamed it down so hard that even people who are usually "squicked out" by loli service don't find it offensive.
Believe me, the novel illustrations would make those people drop it as if it were contagious.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:06 am Reply with quote
Sunny milk wrote:
I actually meant the anime (yes, the anime removed or tamed all service she had).
By making it appealing to the widest possible fanbase (on the expense of lolicons), it became pretty famous and well received in the west, which is reflected in these sales.
I'm just curious how many of these people will find Shiro's sexualization offensive here.


I take it that you're one of minors who finds lolis offensive?

I don't think that removing the lolis 'sexualization' would help the sales as the purists want the anime intact (such as no 'ray of beam' censors or completely cut some scenes altogether/replace scene with tamer version), even in the west.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:30 am Reply with quote
I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.

Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:05 pm Reply with quote
Jayhosh wrote:
I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.

Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though.


US market is very small. Sometime, all you need is 10k to be the est seller for that week.

Other than Japan, Only the French market can sell up 100k copies of vol on some manga. Aot is in top 10 like almost every week for a year now.I still dont think it sold that many copies compare to French and Japan.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Dark Absol wrote:


I take it that you're one of minors who finds lolis offensive?

I don't think that removing the lolis 'sexualization' would help the sales as the purists want the anime intact (such as no 'ray of beam' censors or completely cut some scenes altogether/replace scene with tamer version), even in the west.


You really don't understand what I'm writing.
I LOVE loli fanservice. And the anime already completely butchered it compared to the LNs, and that's what I'm talking about. They made it so tame it's not even the same thing, and has a complete audience switch over thanks to it.
And that's also the reason it could ever get popular among western fandom; if they actually showed anything closed to LN illustrations, 90% of today's fans would have dropped it after a few minutes.
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CallumKeyblade



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:05 pm Reply with quote
Spotlesseden wrote:
Jayhosh wrote:
I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.

Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though.


US market is very small. Sometime, all you need is 10k to be the est seller for that week.

Other than Japan, Only the French market can sell up 100k copies of vol on some manga. Aot is in top 10 like almost every week for a year now.I still don't think it sold that many copies compare to French and Japan.


Attack On Titan 1 has definitely sold over 100k in English. Kodansha USA said when there were 12 or 13 volumes released that there were 1.5 million copies which is just over 100k per volume on average. (Still not much compared to Japan's sales but quite impressive for the western market)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:07 pm Reply with quote
A Jan. 29 ANN article, "Attack on Titan Prints 30 Million in Japan, 660,000 in N. America". By comparison, TokyoPop's best seller was Fruits Basket which sold over 2 million (the same sales figure for the Naruto manga).
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