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asdqweiop
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aw yeah new schedule get hype
im hyped |
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Brainchild129
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I wonder if you could do something similar to the show-centric episode with manga. You could bring in people like Rebecca, Brian, and Shaennon as cohosts along with relevant guests, rehashing series that were a big deal in the past and revisiting them now that they've finished. Of course, the trick might be finding ones that didn't get shows made out of them...unless you just combined the two, I guess.
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Muphrid
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Sounds like you guys don't know very much about the spinoff material. It's an adaptation of a spinoff manga, so at the very least, the basic idea of it can be known. I won't go into details if you guys would rather not know, though.
I enjoyed your criticisms of the series--how the first five episodes had a real story or something, and then everything else was just, oh, what a fun group of characters? Don't you want to see more? More? More? |
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Fronzel
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I'm looking forward to the monthly series-examination episodes in the future.
Hope Chapman's audio levels are really screwed up in a number of places. Fading in and out. I rather liked the first series Haruhi, but I watched it as it came out starting with nothing but the knowledge that it seemed to be getting a lot of attention. Right away it messed with me a little because I was expecting a drama based on the title but instead I get a funny parody of bad live-action film-making. In broadcast order there's a lot of little references to things that haven't happened yet which were intriguing, like during the baseball episode, which I think is episode 3 in broadcast. Why is everyone so afraid of how Haruhi will react to certain things? It was intriguing although flogging mystery really isn't that clever of a trick (Garden of Sinners does the same thing). Makes me wonder why the episodes would ever be presented in chronological order, though. Re: Endless Eight; I don't know if intentionally frustrating is something to admire. It's like an intentionally annoying character in a comedy who isn't funny. I also think it's a domination of the whole by the purely technical side of production as KyoAni had fun playing about with presenting the scenes in different ways. Technical spark and no substance didn't work in Lupin III series 3, either (for all five people who've seen that show). |
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Darksorrow29
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How many of us think Zac will survive Clannad?
Joking aside, yay for new schedule. Endless 8 comment: Obviously as it has been hashed out many times on the forums... it seems like most people okay with Endless 8 marathoned it. People that hated it saw it as it aired. The most frusterating thing was knowing that Season 2 was 14 or so total episodes and each episode wasted on Endless 8 was just another episode less we could enjoy for the season. I hated it and waited a long time before buying season 2. |
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Angel M Cazares
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Like others here, the new schedule sounds like a great idea. I liked this single-show episode, and I think Haruhi Suzumiya was a great show to start. I liked and enjoyed the first season, not a big fan of Endless Eight, but I do not hate it, and the film is a nice way to, apparently, close the anime franchise (not interested in silly spin offs). I wish more of the original novels were adapted into anime (by Kyoto Animation of course).
Looking forward to Clannad and future shows in the future. |
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penguintruth
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I do not consider The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya a "moe show". Certainly it exhibits the different types of moe, isn't exactly as subversive to count as a satire of moe, but doesn't trade on the moe elements so heavily that it's what it relies on. I think it's a unique science-fiction series with "school ensemble show" trappings. The day-to-day drudgery of high school punctuated by these totally fantastical events going on that have to be kept secret. The meat of the series isn't in the moe, nor does it try to be the moe or fanservice. That's just dressing. It's the unique approach to those trappings, to the school show trappings, that makes it dynamic. Kyon's sarcasm, Itsuki's coyness, the mystery of Nagato, the boisterous, adventure-hungry Haruhi.
Now, granted, the show is certainly more interested in being clever rather than truly intelligent, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its own intelligence. It's just tinged more with a snarky, self-aware, humility. It probably tries a little too hard to excuse the moe elements for its snarkiness at times, but it's still very clever most of the time. If it was just a moe show, I wouldn't be interested in it. I despise moe fare. I hate fanservice overload. That kind of thing is toxic to anime in general. The school show, the obsessive fetish pandering. Haruhi isn't like those shows. I loathe hollow pap and transparent sexual titillation, for the most part. You never see me talking about those kinds of shows. Haruhi knew exactly how to handles those elements, how to cast them in the right light, and it hasn't been replicated well enough by anything else. But look who I'm talking to. Zac thinks Wes Anderson movies are thoughtful, funny, and clever. I'll watch Haruhi any day over Anderson's self-indulgent "funny awkwardness" bullcrap like The Royal Tenenbaums. Last edited by penguintruth on Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:57 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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PseudoFiction
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do a Heat Guy J rewatch show
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bobob101
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For me, I watched Haruhi for the first time 2 years ago. I wasn't blown away, but I did like it enough to purchase the first 5 volumes of the light novel. The Disappearance novel Is my favorite one, and the only one I ever re-read.
I am interested to see how this new system goes, and like everyone else I am interested in hearing these shows about a single anime series. Personally, I think you guys have great shows on a single topic. I would love to hear thoughts you guys have on a show like JoJo or Space Dandy, partly because they are hot and big right now (Har) and also because they are probably some of the best Anime we will get for a time to come. Or anything by PA works is good by me. |
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unitmikey
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Well, this podcast was really really good at covering all of the main animated parts of the Haruhi franchise, and pretty much looked at every good and bad thing people had to say about the series. I actually find myself a little removed from the “fandom” but I still love the show to pieces as one of my all-time favorites. I think it works so well because it points out all these weird things moe/romcom anime series do and then uses it for a story that is really more compelling than anything one could expect from a show like this. They took what would typically be a maid café school festival episode and then turned it instead into a well animated rock concert. I personally thought that the awkward blackmail/computer scene was supposed to be played as showing how something like this would be really sick and weird in real life and that’s why shows like this are getting less and less relatable. It then spins off later to turn into a show about feeling insignificant and having to come to terms with, and realize, that the world as it is can be really cool if we make it so (partial shinj-factor).
I also thought the character development was superb overall, as opposed to what it sounds like everyone’s saying. I feel like the baseball monologue in the first season is one of my favorite character pieces that I’ve seen in anime. And I always thought the reason she liked Kyon was because he seemed like he was the only person that wanted to change the world the same way she did, and I think part of her breaking down at the end of season one was her being upset that he was starting to realize that creating a new world wasn’t necessary to be happier. That’s why I want to see more. I don’t know how far Haruhi is going to be pushed before things really hit the fan. I’ve always thought the film would have worked better if it were actually made into a TV season instead of a (beyond) feature length movie. For the new Haruhi thing… I really want them to adapt more of the light novels I haven’t yet read, and part of me will be really disappointed if they decide to do a Kujibiki Unblalance thing with that episode zero. I mean that’s not where they’re going now, but I just hope they don’t consider that in the future, personally. |
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Gasero
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I would support a regular rotation of shows. I would suggest that episodes not be devoted to one entire show though. I'd rather have 2-3 shows discussed. Sometimes people tend to over-analyze shows and I tune out.
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Panoptican
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The unfortunate thing about the first season is that at this point, if you're active in the anime community, there's a decent chance you know the whole spoiler["Haruhi is a god"] thing even if you haven't watched the show. That really takes away from the show's wtf, mystery that it had when it first came out. Combine that with watching in chronological order (The DVDs I have are in chronological order, so this could easily happen) and you're going to have a bad time. The funny thing is that the second season is the opposite. Having the knowledge of exactly how many episodes Endless Eight is and being able to marathon them on disc is better than the experience of watching the show as it aired. Every week watching, hoping it would end. I did that. It sucked.
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invalidname
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Hard to imagine him finishing it, at least if we expect them to also do Clannad After Story, and there's no point only doing the first season, because the acclaim for the series largely comes from the second half of After Story. Which kind of makes the Clannad franchise a ludicrous hard sell: "after the first 35 episodes, the last 10 are really good!" I can't imagine either Zac or Hope liking it. Mike Toole certainly didn't get much from it on his Bataan death march through the Key / Visual Art's oeuvre. |
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Swissman
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Great podcast, but I can't agree at all with the connection you guys make between the molestation/gross inner monologue "humour" of Haruhi and classic Takahashi series like Urusei Yatsura. Seriously.... Mamoru Oshii's Urusei Yatsura?? .... That show is a lot of things, but certainly not a showcase of the same-old "oh look, some panties!" trope and such. Ranma with Happosai as the lecherous old man on the other hand.... ok, here you have a point (just a bit).
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Angel M Cazares
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I agree that they should discuss both seasons. Personally, the first season is the best part because it has a great mix of fun and melodramatic moments. After Story is kind of mediocre. The start is sort of fun, the gang arc is a borefest, and even though the last third has nice character development and emotional moments, it becomes too tragedy porn for my taste. |
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