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mdo7
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 Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:02 pm
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Big congrats to him for that honor. 
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Kougeru
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:18 am
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Kaguya should've won that oscar
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Xristophoros
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:03 am
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i had the privilege of attending a q&a with takahata at tiff this past summer for princess kagua. he is a very kind and humble person. his achievements in the animation industry are well deserved. congratulations and thank you for all the great work throughout the years, takahata-san.
| Kougeru wrote: | | Kaguya should've won that oscar |
you got that right. what a pity the academy decided to sell out and give the crown to big hero 6. while not a bad film per se, it was by the numbers and predictable to a fault. it could have been written by a computer. that being said, i was not surprised by their decision after seeing their past mistakes. that is the oscars for ya!
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:11 am
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It's an honor to be nominated, especially since, again, Kaguya's not the kind of film the Academy embraces, and they could've easily snubbed it in favor of The Lego Movie or Rio 2.
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koinosuke
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:15 am
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Very well deserved for Takahata, one of the greats. A part of me hopes that maybe, just maybe, we'll see another film by him...but the part of me that knows his filmmaking style and the current situation at Ghibli realises how unlikely that is currently. If only.
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Via_01
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:56 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | It's an honor to be nominated, especially since, again, Kaguya's not the kind of film the Academy embraces, and they could've easily snubbed it in favor of The Lego Movie or Rio 2. |
Not one the Academy embraces, but also not one it deserves. The Oscars should be called the "Cashies" at this point in time, at least when it comes to animation. I believe the Oficcer Decoration is a much more prestigious thing to have, which is why I congratulate Takahata for this.
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Sariachan
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:07 pm
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| Xristophoros wrote: | | i had the privilege of attending a q&a with takahata at tiff this past summer for princess kagua. he is a very kind and humble person. his achievements in the animation industry are well deserved. congratulations and thank you for all the great work throughout the years, takahata-san.[...] |
I second that. 
I saw him in an animation festival here in Italy many years ago, and I still remember his humbleness, but also how carefully he observed the people's reaction during the screenings of his movies.
I'm happy he's receiving the recognition he deserves, at least.
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GATSU
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:32 am
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Via: Well, Kurosawa didn't get this kind of recognition by the Academy when he was alive. So, again, be happy for Miyazaki and Takahata, if you're a fan.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:28 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | |
It's an honor to be nominated, especially since, again, Kaguya's not the kind of film the Academy embraces, and they could've easily snubbed it in favor of The Lego Movie or Rio 2. |
Lego Movie should've been in it.
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Very well deserved for Takahata, one of the greats. A part of me hopes that maybe, just maybe, we'll see another film by him...but the part of me that knows his filmmaking style and the current situation at Ghibli realises how unlikely that is currently. If only. |
Pretty much the only way he could fund another movie now is from Western investors. It's not like much of the Japanese appreciate him neither. (Japan didn't appreciate Kurosawa neither until after he was acclaimed in the West.)
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Not one the Academy embraces, but also not one it deserves. The Oscars should be called the "Cashies" at this point in time, at least when it comes to animation. I believe the Oficcer Decoration is a much more prestigious thing to have, which is why I congratulate Takahata for this. |
That's why Leonardo DiCaprio is a Commandeur of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres.
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Ryo Hazuki
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:01 pm
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| enurtsol wrote: | |
Pretty much the only way he could fund another movie now is from Western investors. It's not like much of the Japanese appreciate him neither. (Japan didn't appreciate Kurosawa neither until after he was acclaimed in the West.)
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Regardless what you said, Kaguya-hime covered more of its losses in Japan than in all other countries together, at least if Box Office Mojo is anything to go by: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=princesskaguya.htm
I wonder why Kurosawa's movies were regularly in Kinema Junpo's annual top ten lists, even before Rashomon's international release, when he was clearly hated so hated.
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GATSU
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:10 pm
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enurtsol:
| Quote: | | Lego Movie should've been in it. |
They may take bribes, but they're still above being corporate whores for toy commercials. 
Ryo: My guess for why it got the return it did in Japan was because: 1) Miyazaki stumped for it, and 2) To my knowledge-at least according to Takahata-there was no official anime of that story before then. There might've been parodies, but that's about it.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:44 pm
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| Ryo Hazuki wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: | |
Pretty much the only way he could fund another movie now is from Western investors. It's not like much of the Japanese appreciate him neither. (Japan didn't appreciate Kurosawa neither until after he was acclaimed in the West.)
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Regardless what you said, Kaguya-hime covered more of its losses in Japan than in all other countries together, at least if Box Office Mojo is anything to go by: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=princesskaguya.htm |
Of course; that's its home country to appeal. But it's his budgets that's major projects in Japan, but for the West it's the equivalent of indie projects and affordable.
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I wonder why Kurosawa's movies were regularly in Kinema Junpo's annual top ten lists, even before Rashomon's international release, when he was clearly hated so hated. |
They didn't hate him; they just didn't appreciate him. People forget how it was when Akira Kurosawa was still alive and making films. Here's a couple eulogies about him soon after his death:
Long Live the Emperor!
- The movie studio boss walked out on a screening and later bragged that he didn't understand the film he had financed. The local critics panned it: monotonous, too complicated, way too Western. When Rashomon won the top prize at the 1951 Venice Film Festival, the Japanese cultural establishment was baffled. Only the rest of the world got it and its director, Akira Kurosawa. When he died of a stroke last week at 88, he was the most esteemed Japanese filmmaker -- outside of Japan....
So Kurosawa, with his period parables of honor defended and defeated, represented Japan to the West. That notion proved off-kilter; the more delicate films of Kurosawa's great peers, Yasujiro Ozu and Kenji Mizoguchi, emitted a more redolent whiff of the Japanese character. Indeed, local audiences were suspicious of the Emperor, as Kurosawa was called for his imperious ways, and studio bosses tired of his perfectionism and big budgets.
Most of his later films were made only through outside supporters: French producer Serge Silberman (Ran), U.S. directors Francis Coppola and George Lucas (Kagemusha). In 1990 Lucas and Steven Spielberg gave Kurosawa an Oscar for life achievement. It is fairer to say that Kurosawa brought the West to Japan -- in his adaptations of Dostoyevski (The Idiot), Gorki (The Lower Depths) and Shakespeare (Macbeth into Throne of Blood, King Lear into Ran), in his vigorous editing style and bravura nihilism.
Akira Kurosawa
- Rashomon was the film that introduced Kurosawa to the outside world, and that began an uncomfortable relationship with fame that lasted his whole career. Like Stanley Kubrick, he had the artistic strength to resist compromise, either political or commercial. But his own producer on Rashomon didn't understand the film, which gained attention at home only after receiving international accolades.
Kurosawa had sporadic commercial difficulties from then on, despite such major hits in Japan as Yojimbo. His last films were produced with Hollywood support--and money--from the likes of George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola. They were bigger events in the West than in Japan, despite the kimonos and the films' medieval settings. At his death in 1998, four decades after Rashomon, Kurosawa was virtually forgotten in Japan. The irony is that he was such a Japanese filmmaker.
My impression is that through Kurosawa's films all of us can experience the soul of Japan, the inner strength of the Japanese people. Yet his own countrymen, in rather large numbers, accused him of making films for foreigners' consumption. In the 1950s, Rashomon was criticized as exposing Japan's ignorance and backwardness to the outside world--a charge that now seems absurd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_kurosawa
- Throughout the 1950s and early 1960s, Kurosawa directed approximately a film a year, including a number of highly regarded films such as Ikiru (1952), Seven Samurai (1954) and Yojimbo (1961). After the mid-1960s, he became much less prolific, but his later work—including his final two epics, Kagemusha (1980) and Ran (1985)—continued to win awards, including the Palme d'Or for Kagemusha, though more often abroad than in Japan.
In Japan, both critics and other filmmakers have sometimes accused his work of elitism, because of his focus on exceptional, heroic individuals and groups of men... Because of Kurosawa's popularity with European and American audiences from the early 1950s onward, he has not escaped the charge of deliberately catering to the tastes of Westerners to achieve or maintain that popularity... Kurosawa always strongly denied pandering to Western tastes: "He has never catered to a foreign audience" writes Audie Bock, "and has condemned those who do." Kurosawa was often criticized by his countrymen for perceived "arrogant" behavior. It was in Japan that the (initially) disparaging nickname "Kurosawa Tennō"—"The Emperor Kurosawa"—was coined.
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enurtsol:
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They may take bribes, but they're still above being corporate whores for toy commercials. |
We're not gonna get into that "toy-based shows can't be good on its own right" again, are we
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