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EricJ2
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Seasons exist--They may not be long summer reruns, but you can see breaks in the story arcs at the 24-26 episode marks, much like our own series used to do.
(Didn't we just have a big discussion on, "No no no, UY couldn't have 'rebooted itself after the first season', because it didn't have seasons!"? And you can usually tell when Ranma 1/2 saves its silliest episode for the season finale, as a wrap-party--They don't do cliffhangers like Star Trek:TNG.) Even DBZ would seem to break their story arcs after the fallout from the tournaments, and would come back "two years later" after some unidentified amount of time had passed in some airing interim. Series can have just as much worry about getting renewed as regular scripted shows, which is why most non-serials take their seasons one 13-26 ep. arc at a time. (And oh, you had to remind us of the days when Streamline hitched its wagon to Fist of the North Star. The damage done by Carl's "Look how ICKY it is!  " shock value and endless fairground-act pimping of Toyou Ashida, to sell the novelty of anime, took twenty years to repair.)
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zawa113
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HD DVD, lol, I actually have the Wings of Honneamise HD DVD-DVD combo release. It was only $10 (and this was before it go rescued) and it still had a perfectly useable DVD. And let's face it, every box released by Honneamise was pretty sweet, this one had a little booklet with it. For ages though, the local used store somehow priced it at $80 and I just kept looking at it like "this is a freakin' HD DVD, nobody is going to buy that junk!" then when it dropped to $10, I totally got it (if only for the DVD part). Debating if I want to get the new Bluray release, if it were cheaper.... still cheaper than Honneamise's Bluray combo release for the movie but still...
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maximilianjenus
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Ig uess teh hd dvd question was headed towards comparing it to the laser disc format, where laser disc got tuff released for it that does not exist in other formats, the first example that comes to mind is maze, for which only the laser disc version is uncensored.
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Blanchimont
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Just for note, the Discotek release from 2009 uses the theatrical ending. I do remember about the censorship of it. My first viewing of it was a vhs tape someone had recorded from broadcast. It had some odd parts, like the scene where Kenshiro gets his scars, the strike by Shin is repeated twice. Also, no heads were exploding in that version. Some time later, when I got the vhs released by Manga Entertainment, I understood it was because it was edited, as the tape showed Shin's fingers going in, and the later 'explosions' in their full glory like in the scene with his first encounter with Bat and Lin, and no repeated scenes parts. Years later when I found the ripped/subbed version of it online I was first glad, but afterwards a bit disappointed as the 'gory' scenes were like they had been inserted from some old tape(and perhaps they were, like from the Italian one). However the 'old tape' syndrome resurfaces in the Discotek release too.. Although I have to admit it's likely my memory must be playing tricks here, and the 'scenes' were 'aged' already on the M.E. tape and/or didn't use extended versions of those (I do still have the tape somewhere at my previous address in Sweden, but no vhs anymore to view it on unfortunately...). |
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Nonaka Machine Gun B
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For the record, BLEACH is broken up into multiple "series" which ended up as "seasons" over here. Obviously, the show took no serious breaks, but that's how they're divided. According to Wikipedia, Naruto and One Piece are divided similarly(The first Naruto series is divided into "stages" and One Piece "series" and later "seasons") but these seem to be mostly arbitrary and not necessarily divided evenly. Viz and FUNimation went ahead with their own splitting, it seems.
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Hameyadea
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That's different, that's a 'run'. Seasons (in the Japanese broadcasting sense) is a 3-month period (Winter Season = January, February, March, and same for Summer, Fall, and Spring), but a show can have its 'run' going through multiple Seasons - One Piece is a good example; technically, it is still on its first 'run' from 1999; there were no breaks in airing that lasted more than 2 weeks at most (usually due to holiday TV scheduling or sports tournaments). As Justin Sevakis wrote --
-- meaning that a foreign concept (or a foreigner's idea of things) like dividing a series' 'run' into "seasons" doesn't apply to Japanese TV. When a 'run' is over, that's when - usually - a renewed 'run' will be labeled as a new season.
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GATSU
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Really, the only reason Blu-Ray 'won' over HD was because Sony lobbied for it.
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rizuchan
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Usually the way to tell "seasons" in long running anime is by when the op/ed change. This usually lines up with either 1 cour (11-13 eps) or 2 cour (24-26 eps), or maybe a full year (52 eps)
Like any other method it's just a guideline though. A lot of older anime just ran till it stopped making money and the episode count doesn't line up neatly (older anime like this often didn't ever change the op/ed either, so kind of a moot point). Sometimes Viz and them follow the cour pattern with their releases and other times it's totally arbitrary, or they'll purposefully cut the climax of a story arc to make a cliff hanger. |
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Wyvern
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Eh, not really. First, because the direction of the DBZ story wasn't up to the animators; they were just following Toriyama's manga, which he wrote with no concern for how it would break down as TV episodes. Second, because while the American airing of DBZ took long breaks between storylines (I think more than a year passed between Toonami's broadcast of the Freeza and Android sagas) there were no such breaks in Japan. One story arc would end and then the next would start the very next week. Typically Japanese TV only takes breaks for holidays such as New Year. |
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Zhou-BR
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While most long-running series can be split in clearly defined arcs, I'm not comfortable calling them seasons unless they're officially labeled as such. Even nowadays, with split cours becoming the norm when it comes to 24-26-episode shows, I still don't like referring to each half as a season, except when the second half has a different subtitle, like Hitsugi no Chaika: Avenging Battle.
For instance, the second half of Space Dandy has the same opening and ending sequence as the first one, and there's nothing in the title that says "season 2". Sure, there was a 3-month gap betweem the two halves, but Samurai Champloo had a similar 3-month break between episodes 17 and 18, and yet I don't see anyone referring to the last 9 episodes as "season 2". As for the FotNS movie, isn't the original theatrical ending the one where spoiler[Raoh wins and then leaves]? If it is, then this is the one that was used in the remastered Japanese DVD release, while the one with spoiler[the fight ending with a tie] was included as an extra in the first pressing of Discotek's DVD release. It seems that ending never got a proper remaster, which is why Discotek had to resort to a composite source. Last edited by Zhou-BR on Fri May 15, 2015 1:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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GVman
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The whole way people use "seasons" in reference to different segments of anime is like a less insufferable version of the usage of the word "cour." It's still annoying, though.
It remains popular because it has an emotional, touching story filled with great characters on-par with the likes of the Iliad and Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Then again, many people never get passed that early 20-episode stretch that has Kenshiro fighting sword-wielding mooks who shoot themselves out of a cannon, and the anime never quite loses the goofiness of the filler. Not to mention the terrible job done with most English adaptations of the series, and the anime isn't the best adaptation of the manga, either.
The usage of red blood became more frequent as the show continued, though the glowing white semen blood explosions still remained. I think the black blood eventually disappeared entirely, though. |
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Shiroi Hane
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Japanese TV anime does have clearly defined seasons, one for each season unsurprisingly, although anime do span multiple seasons. In Japan the french term cours is used and that has been adopted by otaku, I think largely because the term "season" is used so confusingly in America. See also: animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/archive
It's easy to see where "lost in a fire" comes from, considering how flammable original film stock was (there was that story about some Japanese pornography has seen the light of day recently because the police who confiscated it decades ago realised they essentially had a big bomb in the basement and passed it over to some archive or other). There has been at least one case of British anime materials literally being lost in fires though, most recently in the London Riots although I don't believe any masters were affected (and nothing would have been stored there that couldn't conceivable be replaced using original materials from America and Japan) and a fire at VDC caused similar problems 10 years ago. |
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EricJ2
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I don't use "Cour" either, just because it's too confusing. But neither do I use "Season" in the sense of a show starting in fall and ending in summer. Simply "Season" with capital S = division of series run, as a way of identifying what changes happened, or which talent took for whom, or which character came or left. You wouldn't say of US series, "Remember when Moonlighting went down the toilet in the third cour?", or "If only they'd kept Enterprise on after the fourth cour, when they finally started to fix all the messes of that third cour arc?" (We could say "Year", but then fans would quibble over that.) |
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Pleinair92
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I heard that many analysts thought HD-DVD would defeat Blu-Ray. Mostly, they remembered the VHS vs. Betamax format war, where Sony backed the Betamax, but consumers favored the VHS, despite having worse storage and picture quality, since it was cheaper and easier to copy than Betamax. Shows just how difficult it is to predict the future.
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EricJ2
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Blu-ray was better, but Blu fans were facepalming and bashing heads against walls at how badly Sony was promoting Blu-ray at the beginning, selling explosions and goofy-action in the hopes that the Playstation gamers would come to their rescue singlehandedly just like they had for DVD. The company was doing a better job of selling HDDVD than the competition was. HDDVD was inferior, and Toshiba was insufferable (there's a reason that Angry Hitler YouTube videos were invented the day Warner tossed Toshiba over--We got the joke), but they at least believed they were the "prestige" home-video format, for grownups who'd moved from laserdisc to DVD. Warner was releasing Casablanca and Robin Hood in the fancy format for the film buffs with the plasma screens, while Sony was hoping the Gamer-D00dz would go for Will Ferrell comedies and Spiderman 3. If Toshiba hadn't fumbled their own ball, if they hadn't put such embarrassing faith in their Transformers disk, that "betrayed" the Sony gamers they were trying to court, and if Disney hadn't had Steve Jobs on their board to do all the "classics" selling for Blu that Sony couldn't or wouldn't, we might never have classics on Blu today, period. |
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