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prime_pm
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We already knew that. |
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belvadeer
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Been loving the dub for this as it's been airing on Toonami. I still love that Tales of Zestiria plug in Episode 3, even though the show originally aired last year in summer (and of course, that led to a cross promotion of SAO II DLC). Such a good tease for us, since ToZ is on its way here.
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LordAura
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I've been watching this on Toonami and while it's slightly better than season 1, it's still pretty cringe worthy to me. I disagree with the explanation that is given for Kirito's Gary Stu-ness is all that reasonable or believable. For starters spoiler[He himself states that GGO players are the only professional players around, the best of the best. Yet none of them can shoot a guy with a sword or mimic what he can do because reasons? He also beats a mini game that no other player was able to on his first day playing a new game. Him reading his opponents eyes excuse is also completely ridiculous. If anything he's even worse in this season.] Another thing that really creeps me out is how this show seems to be trying to push permanent escapism into the virtual world. Kirito and Asuna sounded like complete crazies when they were talking on the bench to me. It's just a weird message.
The saving grace of this season is Sinon, with episode 2 being my favorite so far of the entire show. Last edited by LordAura on Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:04 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Kalessin
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Seriously? Theron must have a very different take on what it means to be chauvanist that I do. I can't think of a single instance where I would have said that Kirito was chauvanist - in either series. He frequently considers himself to be more skilled than other players and has a tendency to want do to stuff on his own, which does lead him to be rude sometimes, but that never has anything to do with gender, and he generally treats the females in the series very well and respects them and their abilities as much as he does with the guys. In any case, this is a great series, and I'm very glad that it's finally coming out on Blu-ray here, though the first release arguably ends right before the good stuff starts. |
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chito895
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It's a shame that Crunchyroll doesn't translate songs, at least not for Spanish sub, but I'll check those ending lyrics.
Sinon became a better character than any of the girls in the SAO series (even more interesting than Kirito himself), not even the Asuna after the Mother Rosario arc gets better. It's a shame that this arc was the most disappointing of the three, as the action is rather boring in the final episodes, the first OP was better in action terms to me than most of the battle scenes throughout the series. |
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jr240483
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well if that's the case them i'm probably sure mother's rosario wont change your minds anytime soon since they only good aspect of that arc is asuna's connection with yuuki.
also kirito is definitely no gary stu characters. sure there are some aspects that make people conclude that, but he's nothing compared to shiro from log horizon who is a prime example of a gary stu character. also the reason why some people dont like phantom bullet is cause of not how kirito becoming chauvinist type character,it that the series in general kinda trying to make him into a psuedo harem male type character. sure he's with asuna of course but with rest of the girls clearly green with jealousy, people have to wonder how long the author is gonna keep this fine line to keep people from turning their backs on the series cause it nearly happened with fairy dance. |
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TsukasaElkKite
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I wish the pricing wasn't so obscenely high.
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TarsTarkas
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Well, Kirito really does have to be better than the GGO players, or there wouldn't be a story. If he wasn't really good or really lucky, he would be dead. That is the price you pay to have a continuing character.
You could also say, that Kirito gets that luck or skill from the end of the original series (Aincard). Perhaps a gift from Aincard's creator. Don't know why they are saying Kirito is sexist. I haven't seen him treat woman badly or take advantage of them. |
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Top Gun
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Even with all of the harem bullplop and Kirito absolutely dripping with Gary Stu-ness, this franchise would be almost tolerable if it weren't for the sheer narrative incompetence displayed at every turn. I was able to come up with 15 or 20 examples just from this season alone in a self-therapy rant elsewhere, but the most egregious by far was the Laughing Coffin connection. So you had a group of players in Sword Art Online running around committing cold-blooded murders, with tons of witnesses to the fact, and everyone in the game is easily-traceable because they're all lying comatose in hospital beds. So the game ends, everybody wakes up...and the police/government decide, meh, let's not arrest the dozens of confirmed killers we have sitting here. Oh, but maybe it's like Kirito said and he didn't see their names, because y'know, it's not like EVERY ONLINE GAME EVER has your handle floating in big letters right over your head. It really is depressing to see this much budget and talent wasted on such garbage storytelling, though I guess the target audience doesn't care about the writing so long as they get to see all their waifus.
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everydaygamer
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Well its been stated that Kirito spoiler[had the highest reflexes of any player in SAO (which was why he got the dual wield skill) which is why he is able to dodge bullets better then most players. As for why no one else mimics his style? I chalk it up to the fact that it's a gun game and most players would rather use a gun then a sword as a main weapon]. |
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LordAura
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This makes no sense to me. I haven't seen Log Horizon, but I did see Mahouka which is another example of a Gary Stu imo. Tatsuya is a far more blatant than Kirito, but that doesn't make Kirito any less of a Gary Stu to me. I mean if you want to argue against him being one that makes sense, but saying someone else is worse just isn't that good of justification for him not being one. |
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Calculus20
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I enjoyed SAO 2 more than 1. Especially once the Mother's Rosario arc started. Literally gold. That being said, it was announced at Anime Expo that the SAO anime would continue as long as Kawahara kept making more Light Novels. Literally straight from the CEOs mouth which implies an informal s3 announcement. Wonder why ANN hasn't made a news article of that yet.
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SilverTalon01
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It is also explained why he likely had spoiler[the highest reflexes in SAO and that reason is also why no one in GGO could do what he was doing. The more you full dive, the faster your brain can respond to it. Kirito was obsessed with full dive before SAO. Natural ability probably played a part in it, but he spent more time with full dive before SAO than most people would. Also SAO players have a pretty big advantage due to being continuously using it for the whole time they were stuck. Remember after the SAO incident, there were no games using full dive for quite a while. Even after ALO came out, it would take 8 years of playing 6 hours a day to match 2 years of doing it constantly.] Honestly, as far as believable reasons for a character being as strong as they are, I think Kirito is rather believable. Basically some one came up with a brand new control scheme for a game, and the guy who has spent far more time playing than everyone else is better at it because he kept building up his skills as he played.
I really liked all the animated arcs, but I'm not really excited at all about a 3rd season. The new arc is fairly boring and a lot of the things people don't like about SAO are very prominent. It is also super long. They've been doing basically 4 novels a season. They'd need to fit 6 to even get a decent stopping point, and that would still be a cliffhanger so you'd have to wait a couple of years to see what happens. |
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jr240483
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uh... i didn't say he was worse. not at the least. i only said he's only inferior as a Gary Stu character. and if anyone have seen log horizon, most would agree with me since Shiro is the empathy of what it means to be a uber gary stu character. even more than tatsuya which is why i didn't mentioned him.
that's one thing that will never happen otherwise he would lose fans that compare him as a gary stu character. sure he's completely clueless towards the feelings of the other girls except for his sister/cousin and he's completely into asuna at the moment, BUT he's sure as hell no makoto from school days. it would ruin the series if he is like that little prick. |
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danpmss
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I found Tatsuya to be the complete subversion of a Gary Stu as a character. Being the perfect killer machine, the perfect student, loved and admired by everybody in his school... while at the same time is have no strong feelings (because he was operated) whatsoever (besides those about her sister, and he is ridiculously unstable with them, doing nearly psychopath actions for some things that "could have" happened to her), everyone wants to control him (they already do, in a sense) and if not, everyone (even those who want to use him, but at a certain point can't) wants him dead. Anyone who claims that Tatsuya is a wish-fullfilment character probably don't know the series that well (I would not like to be like him at all). |
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