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Lemonchest
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Any word from Ponycam on what their sales have been like?
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killjoy_the
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I'm not sure if I would appreciate a sequel so much, since I felt this one was already so good, and maybe upping the stakes to "saving everything" rather than the more character-centric approach of Yuki Yuna's Chapter would not work so well. The prequel light novel is still on-going though, I think? I haven't followed up on the franchise as much as I thought I would, because while I do find the world building good and the lore interesting, the Hero Club's story was far more. I wasn't any disappointed at the ending, which some people seem to consider a cop-out of sorts. I think the ending havingspoiler[ Yuna end up as crippled (more, actually) as Sonoko could've been just as appropriate as the ending we got, but I also liked that she got better.] |
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ChibiKangaroo
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I agree that this serious was far superior to Madoka as far as the relationships and emotional connection between the girls. That was a huge failing for Madoka, which I think was a fantastic show almost purely due to the masterful characters of Kyubey and Homura.
This show definitely allowed the audience to connect more with the characters and "feel their pain" so to speak. In my opinion, the failing with Yuki Yuna was more in certain aspects of the execution. I've already spoken before about how I thought Mimori Togo was a wasted character in many ways. Had she been a character on the same level as Kyubey or Homura, this show would have probably eclipsed Madoka in every meaningful way. I also felt that the way Mimori goes nuts shortly after Fu did lessened the impact of both of their mental breakdowns. That might have been a problem due to the relatively short run-time, so they didn't have enough time to space out their individual crises. The ending was sufficient, in that it was an upbeat ending that is perhaps typical of the magical girl genre. I thought it was a better ending than Madoka due to the audience being able to identify with the struggles of the main character and rejoice with her in the end. Contrast that with the ending in Madoka, which was immensely vague and overly transcendent. I will say that this show turned out better than I initially thought it would after the first few episodes, but it could have been a classic had they put more into Mimori and finished stronger. (Also, I would have liked to learn more about the faeries. Adding some dimension to them as characters would have also helped take this show to the next level.) |
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Greed1914
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I doubt if they would ever say. Even when a company does mention sales, it is usually vague comments like, "Better than expected." PonyCan has no incentive to share this information since it can be used by competitors, and customers would also probably use that to decide if they should continue holding out for a lower-priced release. Right now, PonyCan wants customers to know that the only way to buy their shows is through these expensive volumes. |
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John Thacker
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Indeed. There are certainly points in the show where the tension is heightened by Madoka Magica existing (and most of the audience having seen it.) There's much more real concern that some things might turn out poorly. I have seen studies saying that while audiences in general do not like "bad endings" for any particular show, but that a certain (small) percentage of bad endings are necessary in order for tension and emotional involvement. The audience has to think that there's a possibility that things won't work out, even as in every specific case they cheer for things to work out. The existence of Madoka Magica makes Yuki Yuna a better show. |
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maoyen
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My problem is it invalidated everything they built the show on. In the end there's no real emotional connect, because spoiler[no one made any real sacrifices.] On top of that, they didn't actually accomplish anything important. It reminded me of the ending of Mai-Hime (only not as awful). Last edited by maoyen on Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:54 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Key
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While I generally agree with your comments, CK, I would still easily rate this one in the top three all-time for magical girl series. (The others, of course, would be Madoka Magica and Princess Tutu.)
Doing a discussion sometime on the relative merits of those three would, I think, be an interesting exercise. But what do all three of those series have in common? Dramatic innovation and stellar musical scores. |
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mgosdin
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As far as their sales go, if you could take a stroll by a certain set of shelves in the RightStuf warehouse you could probably figure out how the series did.
The model of "Very Few Deluxe Units" + "Very High Price" does not leave much margin for error. Mark Gosdin |
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aznapwned
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In the beach episode, they did allude to the idea that spoiler[offerings can always be taken back. In this case, they offerings the girls made in the loss of bodily functions was returned to them in exchange for their powers. The reason why the Taisha would bother doing this is because they now understood that their way of sacrificing heroes in order for temporary defense was a faulty idea & thus they reverted what they had done to the girls so far such that they could start over in attempts to find a better solution to defending the world. Also, their is a idea floating around that Yuuki Yuuna is still fighting, as hinted by the fact she didn't lose her petals like the other girls & the small fainting scene that occured during the last portion of the episode.] |
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John Thacker
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*shrug* I think for many (most?) people, emotional connection depends not on the end result of how much is sacrificed, but on the risk involved in getting to the end. People want to feel like there was a chance of sacrifice, but generally most prefer a positive ending. At the same time, too much "real sacrifice" hurts the emotional connection of many audience members as well (whether in 最終兵器彼女 or even how many people react to spoiler[the end of the last Madoka Magica movie].) |
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ChibiKangaroo
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To Key's point (as far as making comparisons between the relative merits of the three shows he referenced), this is a fantastic contrast point between Madoka and Yuki Yuna. It deals with another of the areas that I think Madoka could have been improved, so is perhaps another thing that Yuki Yuna did better... or at least in a more intriguing way. When we were discussing Madoka during the initial run, I said that my preferred ending would have been that Madoka would use her wish to change Kyubey. That might have caused some internal battle within his race of beings and caused them to change their ideas about how they were using the girls. That would have been a more dynamic way to progress the story in my opinion. Yuki Yuna didn't explicitly address this (if I'm remembering correctly), but perhaps implicitly as aznapwned has mentioned above. Personally, I think that opens things up more from an intellectual standpoint and allows for more reflection and internal conflict. So perhaps this is another plus for me in Yuki Yuna's favor, particularly if they pursued that in future iterations. |
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HeeroTX
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I actually prefer this specifically how they did it. I think if they had spread it out more it would have felt more "artificial". As it is, the girls find out AROUND the same time so it makes sense that the ones who are gonna break do so at about the same time as well. It would also hurt the characters to have (for example) Fu learn of things, have her breakdown but not share the info and thus delay Mimori's reaction. I mean, yes there are ways it COULD have been more spaced out, but the way it works I think makes sense and also heightens the tension when we focus on Mimori because we're still in a state where Fu+Itsuki are not at 100%, which makes Karin+Yuki that much more challenging.
I do agree that they could've finished stronger with Mimori and DEFINITELY wish they had gone into more detail about the faeries. I think the faeries were more of a casualty of the runtime, but I definitely wish we knew more about them because while they're not as "bad" as Kyubey, they're not ENTIRELY friendly either, but they're really kind of "questionable" for the final episodes. As for a sequel. I think they COULD do it, my main reason for wanting one is to see if they actually go deeper into the question of spoiler[is the world they are in a "protective bubble" or a "CAGE"]. I really wonder about that especially with how the battles play out and would be curious to see that explored. There are lots of hints that suggest something, but I wonder if that's just my imagination going off the rails or if that's intentional. |
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Gewürtztraminer
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Not so much on this series, but judging from the Japanese numbers for Denki-Gai, I think part of Pony Canyon's success could be dictated by in essence reverse importation by big fans of the shows in Japan. I liked Yuki Yuna a lot and would like to show it to others with a dub, but did not like it enough at that price point. The backlog of interesting shows to share and discuss with more casual fans has many other equally as valid, interesting and cheaper options. |
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maximilianjenus
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regarding the madoka parallels, while I don't remember the specific scenes at the moment, I'll add that madoka was planned, most likely stil in preproduction to be 2 coeur and some ideas for more chapters were discussed, like the beach episode. that information is know in madoka sites because of interviews (iirc shinbo is the one who said the most). that being said, yuki yuna took/used some of those ideas , while it might have been a simple coincidence I think takahiro did it completely on purpose like the golgo 13 homage.
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Key
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People, please remember that spoiler tags must be used; I have already gone back and added them to several posts. Unlike with the episode review threads, you cannot assume with one of these that everyone reading the thread has already seen the episodes.
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