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Isaaru



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:09 pm Reply with quote
finally..an intelligent article in the mainstream america media about manga!

still tired of hearing about princess AI becuase it has something to do with Courtney Love..
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slickwataris



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:03 pm Reply with quote
oh, geez...this is my first post *blush Embarassed blush*

Anyway, I get the Chicago Tribune and I didn't even notice. Of course, I never read women news anyway so that's to be expected. I guess it's a good thing my grandma never throws out the paper. I'll have to read it later when I get back home from school.
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AnimeHeretic



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:30 pm Reply with quote
ANybody got a link you DON'T have to register for?
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slickwataris



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:40 pm Reply with quote
AnimeHeretic wrote:
ANybody got a link you DON'T have to register for?


http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/women/chi-0501050019jan05,1,3866485.story?coll=chi-leisurewomannews-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

Worked for me. You clicked on Manga Mania right? Course I have the hard copy at home so I don't know why I clicked on the link in the first place...probably to help you. Very Happy
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manafairy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:32 pm Reply with quote
Quote:
"The girls are cute, they're never insulting, and they never have big breasts."


Laughing Methinks someone hasn't read much manga

*Ahem* Anyways, everytime a new "Holy crap! Girls are reading comics!" article comes out, it always says the same thing with slightly different wording. Not to mention that there's usually always a flaw (How many times have I read the line "Girls love shoujo stories like Chobits and Love Hina". Although fortunately they didn't do that in this article). I'm going to pretend that the only reason they cited Full Metal Panic was because they were trying to give a bit of info on various manga series regardless of the shounen and shoujo labels.....
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one3rd



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:38 pm Reply with quote
Hmmm...I didn't really like the synopsis for FMP! or the categorization as shoujo for that matter. There's absolutely nothing dreamy about Sagara. He's a complete military nut. It seems like that was thrown in just to make the manga seem more shoujo-esque. Illustrator Tateo Retsu even said that it's a boys' manga. Although she added, "with a girl's spirit," but that's likely because the story is told largely from Chidori's point of view.
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CorneredAngel



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:00 am Reply with quote
Incidentally, is not original to the Chicago Tribune, but first ran in the New York Times on 28 December - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30D10FE3D5D0C7B8EDDAB0994DC404482
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herbkir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:00 pm Reply with quote
It may not be perfect, but at least the article treats manga seriously instead of ridiculing it. The mainstream media have always had problems taking seriously any kind of special hobby interest. It takes them a while to realize that the followers of a special interest like manga are serious about their avocation. And it always comes as a revalation to them, a kind of "My gawd, where did this come from" moment. (^_*)
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Djablesse



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:09 pm Reply with quote
slickwataris wrote:
AnimeHeretic wrote:
ANybody got a link you DON'T have to register for?


http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/women/chi-0501050019jan05,1,3866485.story?coll=chi-leisurewomannews-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

Worked for me. You clicked on Manga Mania right? Course I have the hard copy at home so I don't know why I clicked on the link in the first place...probably to help you. Very Happy


It's not working for me. The same registering crap still comes up.
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Hi no Neko



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:28 pm Reply with quote
manafairy wrote:
*Ahem* Anyways, everytime a new "Holy crap! Girls are reading comics!" article comes out, it always says the same thing with slightly different wording.


Exactly the same thing with "Girls in videogames" type articles. I swear, it's like people have a big "Women in _____(industry)" Mad Lib sheet to work from. Confused
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luhead



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NeoSam



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:42 pm Reply with quote
since the examples were right after the article, were they trying to imply that Full Metal Panic is Shoujo??? Rolling Eyes

Full Metal Panic was serialized in Comic Dragon magazine which is a magazine targeted at male audience(a shounen magazine), so Full Metal Panic is shounen.

Shouji Gatou(male mangaka) is the author of this manga and the illustrator is Tateo Retsu(femlae mangaka), even if Tateo Retsu was the author of this manga it doesn't make it shoujo(female mangaka doesn't mean the manga is shoujo) but since its serialized in Comic Dragon its shounen.
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AstroNerdBoy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:03 pm Reply with quote
NeoSam wrote:
since the examples were right after the article, were they trying to imply that Full Metal Panic is Shoujo??? Rolling Eyes

Full Metal Panic was serialized in Comic Dragon magazine which is a magazine targeted at male audience(a shounen magazine), so Full Metal Panic is shounen.

Shouji Gatou(male mangaka) is the author of this manga and the illustrator is Tateo Retsu(femlae mangaka), even if Tateo Retsu was the author of this manga it doesn't make it shoujo(female mangaka doesn't mean the manga is shoujo) but since its serialized in Comic Dragon its shounen.


I didn't realize FMP was initially serialized in Dragon. Much like Slayers in that regard. Anyway, FMP, like Slayers, is a series of short stories and novels. I'm hoping these will be brought to the US like the Slayers novels are.
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AnimeHeretic



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:36 am Reply with quote
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/printedition/chi-0501050019jan05,1,1236033.story
Hopefully this should be a direct link to the story.

(stupid registration fricka-frack) Mad
Edit: Never mind, still have to register
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Kaolin_Yatsura



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:40 pm Reply with quote
As a girl who both reads manga, comics, plays video games, and Dungeons and Dragons I understand this Holy Shit it's a Girl phenomenon. It's actually quite amusing. It's an enjoyable feeling to be a well liked minority. It's fun to say I do that and guess what I have BOOBS! ahem sorry that was a bit off tangent but I just felt it would be amusing to interject.
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