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Desa



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:23 pm Reply with quote
I could maybe understand not streaming a game like Hatred, but yanderes have this comic absurdity to them so I do find it strange that Twitch would ban this and allow perhaps more questionable titles. In any case I'm not one of those "think of the children!" types, nor am I inclined to be the Thought Police like the author(s) of ANN's auto filters.

(Seriously ANN, if you don't like something, censor it, don't edit it. Putting words in other people's mouths is bad form.)
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:40 pm Reply with quote
If I was getting paid 4k a month for a game I'd also slow down development pace enough so that I can keep getting paid month after month. Gotta love the Patreon monies. Smart devs.
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ximpalullaorg



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:48 pm Reply with quote
That's not what he's doing, actually. He asked for an opinion on an earlier Kickstarter, for example.
I'm not interested in the game at all, but he's not "slowing down" dev time to get more money.
Also, whole banning is kind of ridicolous.
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Renasviel



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:49 pm Reply with quote
Twitch is getting increasingly ridiculous. Skyrim, a game where a player can murder almost anyone, increasing defenceless innocents, in brutal ways such as decapitation (heads, arms etc), and, with the right mods, even kids can be murdered, is perfectly acceptable, but Yandere Simulator, a cartoonish game where you can also kill people, is banned. I swear, sometimes it must pull this kind of thing to get publicity.

See, I can understand HuniePop (well no, no I can't, I think if anyone would like to watch a stream of HuniePop, they would do so regardless, they either already have the game, or if they are underage, would probably be able to download it anyway, and even if they couldn't, it's not like a quick google search wouldn't give them access to the very worst HuniePop has to offer, so really, anything beyond a warning saying "this stream is intended for mature audiences" is excessive) but this? Ridiculous.
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AJ (LordNikon)



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:49 pm Reply with quote
Megiddo wrote:
If I was getting paid 4k a month for a game I'd also slow down development pace enough so that I can keep getting paid month after month. Gotta love the Patreon monies. Smart devs.


YandereDev is actually quite upset about the time frame for completion. His original projections was he had intended to complete the game several years ago, but like many creative types, he won't delegate the work, and is constantly tying to add more and more things to it outside of the original scope.

I've been critical quite often in the past every time he posts a new video with all these extra easter eggs, and new game play functions that are well beyond the scope of the game over the past few years of following his blog and progress.

It also doesn't he that he feels he needs to spend nearly two full days of the week reading and sorting emails rather than again, delegating this work. Then another full day making the bi-weekly video progress updates. Another few days with bug fixes...

Personally, he is going to reach full burnout pretty soon and the entire project is likely just going to disappear.
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Estelle the White Mage



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:05 pm Reply with quote
This was kind of expected.

The developer basically nailed the point as to why Twitch isn't going to allow his game to be streamed, "but I doubt that this would change Twitch's mind if they simply don't like the idea of a game that allows slaughtering students in a school setting."

The difference between GTA V, Call of Duty, and Yandere Simulator is that GTA V and Call of Duty has adult humans who get killed. Yandere simulator has school-aged children whose core gameplay is to actively seek out and kill these children in stealthy ways.
The difference between Bully and Yandere Simulator is Bully's highest level of violence is punching someone. Yandere Simulator allows you to graphically murder them.

No matter how you paint it, the game comes off as (in the eyes of uninformed people) as a children killing simulator. No amount of "but this game gets streamed though!" is going to change that. And the developer would want his game streamed to attract new customers to view it and play too.... which leads back into the argument of how this game gets portrayed to the uninformed.


And while it doesn't bother me that people play this (as I have made the argument in the past that games, music, and movies are fantasy, and people who buys these things can distinguish fantasy from reality), I can understand why Twitch doesn't want to allow streaming.

Just like how Koei Techmo's reluctance to localize DOA:3, or Idea Factory censoring Monster Monpiece, Twitch must look after itself to save face in the general public. To any person not familiar with Yanderes, anime tropes, or just uninformed parents, Yandere Simulator appears as a grade school children killing game. And Twitch has every right, as an independent entity, to decide which games get streamed and others that don't.

No one is stopping anyone from making a Twitch-like service that caters to banned games either. Enough demand for said banned games gives the incentive to create said streaming service.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:39 pm Reply with quote
School Days as a game? Gotta love it. Laughing
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invalidname
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:31 pm Reply with quote
Dammit, Twitch, I think you just Striesand Effected me into supporting this game.
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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:44 pm Reply with quote
SO Twitch please remind me HOW much money and support you have given to GTA5 versus this game that is far less....well everything.
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Chester McCool



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:17 pm Reply with quote
Tanteikingdomkey wrote:
SO Twitch please remind me HOW much money and support you have given to GTA5 versus this game that is far less....well everything.


Twitch is all about cash money and politics. GTA and Skyrim are epic, socially acceptable, best games ever and the face of gaming. Why, i use to stream Skyrim... until I took an arrow to the knee! Rolling Eyes

I find it funny even after being censored Criminal Girls is still banned. NISA's attempts to make it the next Twitch streamer mainstream hit failed.

Remember violence is okay, but sex is not in the gaming world.
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:14 pm Reply with quote
OK so this is blocked, but people are allowed to stream Mortal Kombat X... How does that work?
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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:53 pm Reply with quote
Typically arbitrary.
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CoreSignal



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:17 pm Reply with quote
Estelle the White Mage wrote:
Just like how Koei Techmo's reluctance to localize DOA:3, or Idea Factory censoring Monster Monpiece, Twitch must look after itself to save face in the general public. To any person not familiar with Yanderes, anime tropes, or just uninformed parents, Yandere Simulator appears as a grade school children killing game. And Twitch has every right, as an independent entity, to decide which games get streamed and others that don't.


That's pretty much the issue here. In a country that witnesses school shootings all the time, even the developer understands why Twitch is being so touchy about this. I don't agree with either, since Mortal Kombat, CoD, and GTA are way more violent but then anything in Yandere Simulator but it's their decision.


Chester McCool wrote:
Remember violence is okay, but sex is not in the gaming world.

Sounds like you don't play many western games. There's sex in plenty of western games. Look at Dragon Age, Mass Effect, God of War, Heavy Rain, etc.
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hikura



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:52 pm Reply with quote
Let me get this right twitch has a problem with this game.But fallout 4 has no problem being on there.In fallout 4 you can take drugs and blow heads off of your enemies.
Double standard much twitch.
I am just using fallout 4 as an example.There are other games that are very violent.
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Lady Multi



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:59 pm Reply with quote
I love Yandere Simulator but I can see Twitch's point to be fair.

Unlike the violence and nudity of the other games, whose characters are adults,

Yandere's violence and nudity revolves around children aged about 14-17ish.
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