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NEWS: Unauthorized Manga Translation Site Pulls Shonen Jump, Viz Titles

Besides in the Japanese version Sanji says Kusou a lot and that could be translated as darn, dang, crud, damn, crap, or shit. In the 4kids version he said crud, viz has him say crap, funi has him say crap in english and damn in the subs, while the fan subs always have him say shit.

Their FMA translation calls Xerxes 'Cselkcess', despite the fact anyone with Google can tell you it's Xerxes given it's Persian origins. I don't even know how to pronounce Cselkcess, to be honest.

Yu-Gi-Oh and Detective Conan, have name changes and dialog changes up the butt, but those seem deliberate rather than mistakes.

Naruto, well, no matter how much you want to stretch it, Oiroke no Jutsu does not mean "Ninja Centerfold" nor can Shintenshin no Jutsu be translated as "The Art of the Valentine". Which is odd since Viz also does the Naruto anime dub and calls them the much more accurate "Sexy Jutsu" and "Mind Transfer Jutsu" respectively.

Viz didn't change any names in the Yu-gi-oh manga, in fact the whole series was released un edited.

Anyways, I cannot understand why people care about one panel edited (with the original publisher's permission) here and there. It really makes 0 impact on the story. It's not like the original manga is a holy book that cannot be altered in any way.

1.) Funi/Viz lied
2.) Japan just thinks America is the only country dumb enough not to 'get' a manga unless it's heavily Americanized.

Now, I wouldn't count #2 out; it's happened before in the video game scene (Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest), but still, if the original publisher thinks the US is that stupid, then it'd be nice to prove them wrong for once.

As for Case Closed being so Americanized I just thought Funi did that because they knew it would be on adult swim and wanted to try and attract the non anime viewers since it was a crime anime and maybe they thought if non anime fans didn't have to pronounce japanese names and have a show set in japan they would give it a chance.

To me, as long as the story and character's personalities are left alone I am not going to complain about a couple of translation screw ups.

"Purists" really are the most funniest bunch.

Conan-san wrote:

... (given they practically own the original rights anyway so it's not like we're talking pit of a hundred trails here) ....

In what sense do they "practically own the original rights anyway"? You are saying that the manga-ka for, eg, One Piece and Naruto have such a weak bargaining position when negotiating international digital distribution rights that Viz says jump and they say, "Hai! How High?"

Haha, that's the thing though. Viz's translations of Reborn....DO change the character's personalities. A character's personality is determined by what they say in a certain situation. I highly doubt when your friend is dying, you're going to yell, "Holy ham on rye with kraute" which is technically some sort of German sandwich. The main character is trying to make a joke while his friend is dying? ....That's changing his personality to me.

And you need to get off your damn high horse, saying all people who read scanlations are "purists." And you also need to stop assuming that people who read scanlations do not pay a dime to the original creators. 500 manga? Good for you. I have over 2,000. Oh along with the original Japanese versions of Reborn. I read scanlations because I have no clue with my Japanese mangas say. I also read them because I have no idea what Viz's translations say either, because they're so screwed up, they make no sense to me and not just me, alot of people say this.

I ask you this, would you pay for a manga you do not understand? That's with me with Viz's translations. Why should I spend my hard earned money on an inferior product which I do not even understand when it's supposed to be in my own language?

Unless Viz can justify my purchase with decent translations, they won't get a dime from me.

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As for Case Closed being so Americanized I just thought Funi did that because they knew it would be on adult swim and wanted to try and attract the non anime viewers since it was a crime anime and maybe they thought if non anime fans didn't have to pronounce japanese names and have a show set in japan they would give it a chance.

You know what's a good idea? Let anime be anime and let it attract any sort of fan possible because of what it is. Anime almost never survives that sort of over-localization, unless it's something like Pokemon. The kind of people that stay up to watch Adult Swim know full well what anime is and won't let Japanese names hinder their enjoyment of an anime. If we were talking children watching [AS] your point might be relevant instead of being demeaning.

You won't buy any Viz products just because you are upset over one series? Wow.

Rukiia wrote:

You won't buy any Viz products just because you are upset over one series? Wow.

That's generally how boycotts work.

In my past experience "boycotts" for manga, almost never include not reading the manga, and simply means "I refuse to buy the manga and instead will pirate it", this "boycott" for some reason also expands to other companies.

Charred Knight wrote:

In my past experience "boycotts" for manga, almost never include not reading the manga, and simply means "I refuse to buy the manga and instead will pirate it", this "boycott" for some reason also expands to other companies.

That would be like if the famous boycott of non-union lettuce included telling people to shoplift the lettuce ~ it would have lost a lot of its profile and impact. Its a lot harder to convince people you are serious when the boycott doesn't actually involve a sacrifice on the part of the boycotters.