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NEWS: Man Pleads Guilty to Coercing Girl He Met at Anime Con

You can't be forced to do something willingly. Coercion means that you don't get a choice. And why go through such a nuanced argument to defend an admitted rapist?

He allegedly befriended the girl on Facebook and through mobile phone conversations under the name "Michael Allen," and then engaged in sexual explicit conduct twice in the following month.

Interesting movie, but probably not relevant to this.

citizenplain wrote:

You can't be forced to do something willingly. Coercion means that you don't get a choice. And why go through such a nuanced argument to defend an admitted rapist?

Since when have I defended the rapist? You enjoy putting words in other peoples mouths.
I am not disputing the fact that the man lied to the girl. What I am disputing is how that changes the moral significance of the girls actions.
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He allegedly befriended the girl on Facebook and through mobile phone conversations under the name "Michael Allen," and then engaged in sexual explicit conduct twice in the following month.

Doesn't sound very coerced on her part.

(see the Duke lacrosse case for reasons to why you shouldn't always assume the woman is innocent)

I feel the girl should get some sort of punishment as well.

I'm hoping she lost her cellphone ,interent use ect ect ect.

I do wonder about the girl, though.

I have to wonder who did the coercing... she should be held accountable in some way as well.

I do think the parents and the victim share some blame as well, and hopefully they treat this as a lesson. I think the parents could have been more aware of her activities online, and she could have used better judgment.

But I do hope the girl learned her lesson.

at 13 years old, the girl isn't exactly incapable of understanding what she is doing.

I do agree both parties share the blame

she wasn't "raped" in the true sense of the word.

If that's true then she's a damn slut.

You can't be forced to do something willingly. Coercion means that you don't get a choice.

hikaricore wrote:

I have to wonder who did the coercing... she should be held accountable in some way as well.

coercion is conditioning the child to think that something is the right thing to choose to do.

If you would be so kind as to not quote me out of context and or truncate said quotes. Thanks.

Mike Toole wrote:

hikaricore wrote: I have to wonder who did the coercing... she should be held accountable in some way as well.

If you would be so kind as to not quote me out of context and or truncate said quotes. Thanks.

This thread makes me sad.

He allegedly befriended the girl on Facebook and through mobile phone conversations under the name "Michael Allen," and then engaged in sexual explicit conduct twice in the following month.

According to attorney's office, the girl later discovered Alper's true identity

Mohawk52 wrote:

coercion is conditioning the child to think that something is the right thing to choose to do.

True. And our public schools do that in many parts of this country. "Remember to always use a condom! [Whenever you have casual sex with a Facebook Friend]"

Zac wrote:

This thread makes me sad.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

you're not going to come out on the other side looking like the good guy if you walk down the "well maybe she's to blame too!" road for even a second, even hypothetically, even if you're just playing games or trolling or whatever. Not worth it. And I don't know why any of you think it is.

He allegedly befriended the girl on Facebook and through mobile phone conversations under the name "Michael Allen," and then engaged in sexual explicit conduct twice in the following month.

Zac wrote:

you're not going to come out on the other side looking like the good guy if you walk down the "well maybe she's to blame too!" road for even a second, even hypothetically, even if you're just playing games or trolling or whatever. Not worth it. And I don't know why any of you think it is.

Here is why I think it is:

Article wrote:

He allegedly befriended the girl on Facebook and through mobile phone conversations under the name "Michael Allen," and then engaged in sexual explicit conduct twice in the following month.

I would never do such a thing at any age, not even with the cutest lady out there. Why would he? Why would she? The simple answer is because they were both willing to have sexual relations. This isn't bizarro logic, this isn't difficult reasoning. This is common sense.