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littlegreenwolf
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Nadesico is fantastic and sadly over looked by the newer anime fans, because every anime fan should know who the great Gai Daidouji is. It's like a time capsul of the late 90s, and is indeed a homage to anime-culture. But unless the newer fans watched a lot of older anime they probably wouldn't get many of the jokes.
As for budget constraints I think you may just be a little too spoiled with modern animation technology because I don't recall the Nadesico budget being anything less than the normal in terms of anime tv series of that day. Plus come on, for once it's a harem show where the guy cooks. That for one makes it stand way out. And as for all the girls being in love with him... that was part of the joke, no? You're on a ship called the Nadesico, lots of female crew, Megumi Hayashibara... I don't remember the harem elements being on par with Tenchi though in terms of perverse, or providing anywhere as much fanservice. Then again it's been years since I last saw it and maybe need to give it a rewatch because I always remember it as being fairly camp that never made me as a female feel uncomfortable no matter how ditzy the captain was. Heck, I never even really considered it much of a Harem anime since it only plays a minor role in the plot. And as any true sci-fi fan should note, Nadesico has technology that has pretty sound theories behind them. They're not just flying alien spaceships, they're theoretically possible... or so Dr. Inez led me to believe. And I always found Ruri more of a Rei clone than a Data with pigtails. Data was never that rude. This was post-Eva and it was trying to combine various elements that the otaku loved. |
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bleachj0j
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I think episode 12 of Sword Art Online is where I have come pretty close to dropping it. It was just Melodramatic and shallow. The show is just not trying to be anything more. Which is a shame given the first episode.
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sainta
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I always believed that Akito was forced to be the protagonist by the writers. He only pilots robots yet he always has to accompany a supporting character in episodes not focused on him. Also about all the girls liking him for no reason, I wonder if that was intentional as part of a parody because even the announcer from the previews can't believe Akito's popularity. |
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Wakazhi
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Now I know that Ruri is pretty much a satire of Rei, but no way would I consider Ruri "emotionless". In fact, her blunt remarks and witty attitude were a nice addition to the already colorful cast in the series. She was annoyed by the fact that she was surrounded by idiots (compared to her), so having practical conversations with "idiots" wasn't really in her to-do list. The only thing she showed honest emotions for was the ship's computer because it wasn't an "idiot" per say. |
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Julia-the-Great
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I think by "seasons" she includes the "remakes", Tenchi Universe and Tenchi in Tokyo, which definitely had a lot more harem-y episodes than sci-fi-y episodes. Even the episodes in space had a few harem-y episodes (Beach Episode Planet, anybody?). |
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belvadeer
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For once I'd love to see a fantasy anime that gets it right.
Holy chicken nuggets, you're not kidding. What have I been missing!? |
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CrownKlown
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I like Universe and Tokyo, but I dont consider them canon, and I dont think most Tenchi Muyo fans do either (they was no involvement with the creator of the series K Masaki). They were just okay spinoffs, so I dont like to judge them together. And I skipped this but what do you mean all the girls liked akito for no reason. Do you seriously watch what you review or do scratch your ass for 600 minutes. By my count there were 3 girls that "chased" Akito. Blue haired girl, she liked him because they were childhood friends. Aquamarine hair girl liked him gradual, as he improved as a pilot and got to know him better. The brown haired girl is the only one who I cant think of why she liked him, but she was probably the most plain and boring character, so who cares. Even if you count ruri, she says it in one episode, she likes his childish enthusiasm and innocence. Christ at least watch what you criticize. |
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blackseer
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The thing that irritates me more about SAO is that everyone compares it to the .hack series and many thing the former is better. And I can't contest that, because I know the .hack ANIME series were incongruously slow-paced drama that even I couldn't watch.
But the games, both the original .hack and .hack//G.U., had very interesting stories but were never turned into anime. They had the mistery involving the game itself causing players to fall into a coma, colorful characters, guild dynamics involving the act of player-killing, a whole in-game mythology, and many things more that are being retold in SAO. I think the biggest problem of SAO, and I believe is what people are calling fanservice, is that it spends too many episodes on uninteresting girls characters just for the sake of it. Personally, I was gonna drop the series, but then episode 9 came and changed my mind, but the idea of just stop watching is coming back. |
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Covnam
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First, yes, Captain Tylor is awesome and everyone should see it. Now that that's out of the way...
While I haven't seen Nadesico in years (I bought it in 2003 (wow, almost 10 years ago...), and probably watched it around the same time) I do distinctly remember enjoyed the TV series and not enjoying the movie at all. As mentioned by others, the change in tone was a real turn off. I didn't know (or have since forgotten...) that it was the first of a planned trilogy though. Perhaps the next two movies would have redeemed the movie series as a whole and it would have been much better, but since we only got the first one, that's nothing more then an interesting side note. Nice piece of info, but doesn't really change anything. Lastly, interesting bit of info Key. Perhaps I should rewatch MSN sometime and see how it holds up for me. I'm almost worried to rewatch it as so much of it might fall flat. Although I could use that as I good excuse to pick up this new release... |
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erinfinnegan
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I assure you I have seen plenty of Tenchi Muyo. It feels like hundreds of hours worth, but I could be off in that calculation.
I never really liked the tone of the TV series, so I enjoyed the new tone in the movie. I also was never fond of spoiler[the lead characters] so I was delighted by their near-absence from the film. The time gap didn't bother me either, I found out over the course of the film what I felt I needed to know about the time gap.
I don't remember the recap episode... why was it great?
It's not over yet, right? I hope they show us what's going on in the real world at the end of SAO.
Yes, I do watch what I review. There are 740 minutes in the Nadesico box, plus I watched about 258 minutes of SAO (I also watched episode 11) and 325 minutes of Himawari Too. So over two weeks (since I skipped a week) I watched 22+ hours worth of anime, worked a 40 hour job each week, attended class for 6 hours per week, and did several hours worth of homework. It takes me about 3-4 hours to write the column, too, (so that's time when I can't watch anime). If I had time to scratch my ass, it was a pretty good week. |
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enurtsol
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Y'mean Fifty Shades, but hey, if gals can enjoy their fanfic fantasies, guys can too! 
Try the live-action studio version.
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Animegomaniac
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I saw Nadesico last year last year and I thought of it as more a love triangle than a harem. Simple math:
Two girl's a love triangle, five's a harem and anything in between is fun. Nadesico's fun; also a love triangle with one "undecided". And unlike Evangelion, I actually got to enjoy Spkie Spencer's performance in the dub. Shelfworthy for me for the TV series, I'm just trying to decide how much. The rest can stay in the box. Himawari, I would have actually liked more on the Student/Teacher romance as it was once of the less creepier pairings in the series, let alone anime of that type. It didn't come out of nowhere and it was kind of sweet compared to series where high school/middle school... elementary school... girls actively pursue their teachers. Kindergarten. But that was played more for laughs. Her mother, on the other hand, I don't know... Also, usually I don't like ninjas but I thought they were ok here as I can accept government sanctioned ninja schools based on genetic manipulation of the gene pool rather than the usual "normal ninjas as superheroes/villains" theme. Here, they're weird and you know it. |
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littlegreenwolf
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Oh god I forgot all about that. That's what made the dub for me. It was the time of ADV where they could get downright ridiculous voices (I do remember Eureka being somewhat annoying) but the fact that they had this comedy homage to otaku-fandom and their shinji voice actor had the lead role, and though piloting robots, totally was superior to Shinji in most ways. He made me laugh too much. I watched this whole series originally dubbed on vhs. God I feel old now. And yeah, the theme song was pretty great. Damn I want to watch some Nadesico now. |
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Saffire
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GWOtaku
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Far be it from me to decry anything Gekigangar 3, but for my money "best recap episode" goes to "Haruhi in Wonderland" from Ouran High School Host Club on the grounds that it referenced everything that had happened up to that point in the show's own silly way and even added a bit of characterization for the lead for good measure. Not a narrated clip in sight.
Was that Nadesico episode the best clip show, well, maybe. Something original was in it that lasted for more than a handful of seconds. But yeah, very low bar to clear. |
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