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GAME: Corpse Party: Book of Shadows


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Bames



Joined: 28 Jan 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:45 pm Reply with quote
Nice review for a not-so-nice game. Pretty much summed up my opinion of Book of Shadows in a much more eloquent way than I ever could, which is what I've come to expect of Dave's reviews.

Thing is, I almost definitely would have found this game much more bearable had I not played the first one.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:50 pm Reply with quote
cloud8100 wrote:
Clearly, Dave doesn't enjoy watching people suffer.


Yeah. What a weirdo!
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wayne-kun



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:08 pm Reply with quote
williamflipper wrote:
Thanks Dave. I'm going to buy some sandwich instead. Falafel wrap maybe. with a tons of houmous. A lot, really a lot of houmous. Fart party indeed.


Sandwiches for everyone instead!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:21 am Reply with quote
This game get 7.0 @ video game site. I'm guessing people will enjoy this game no matter what.
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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:32 am Reply with quote
I was disappointed by the ending to blood covered (the first game) and it's sad that this game does nothing to improve it. the only one I was really interested in was the final chapter. I have no wish for more of the OVA (which I disliked except for one 2-3 minute scene with the only working couple in the first game) which seems to be what the first seven chapters are basically.
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:16 am Reply with quote
I've seen the OVA and, well, let's just say that if the VN is on the same level then an F is almost too high. Watching cute, innocent but sexualised girls be brutally slaughtered for the audience's amusement; it's just guro, isn't it. It's sick.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:38 am Reply with quote
Did people feel the same about HSOD and Blood-C and other anime I wonder? HSOD mixed gore and sexualization quite a lot and lots of people liked that.

I'm more taken back that one of the last games for the PSP in America is mostly a visual novel. And a gory one at that. Odd how we can get that but not, say, either of the Digimons or other JRPGs. I'm pretty sure VNs are more niche than JRPGs
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Draneor



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:07 am Reply with quote
PrecisionCrab wrote:
I'm of the opinion that Dave should have been more considerate of the demographic this game is marketed towards, the VN fanbase, and all 7 of its members. Because it matters!

Far more than seven people enjoy playing visual novels. It's not a large fanbase, but we exist. And I'll note many of us--including me--find this game utterly disgusting and inappropriate. People are individuals, after all, and don't fit in neat categories. I can't even read the review or see the images without feeling extremely queasy in my stomach, for example.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:34 am Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
Did people feel the same about HSOD and Blood-C and other anime I wonder? HSOD mixed gore and sexualization quite a lot and lots of people liked that.


I dunno about Highschool of the Dead, but BLOOD-C's violence was absolutely terrible, just like the rest of the show. Great visuals, but disgusting attitude towards humanity. While the deaths weren't too sexualised (except maybe the twins), it was extremely gratuitous violence, especially the final episode which was just sickening. I seem to remember that though the hyper-violence did have its fans (mainly because of how bizarre it was to see spoiler[giant rabbits attack humans),] there were quite a few people who were just horrified by that last episode. There's gruesome deaths, and then there's spoiler[stuffing dozens of people into a giant bag and mincing them.]
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:39 am Reply with quote
I came here not because of the subject matter of the review but how it was written. I'm no judge or maybe I should say I'm not an college English professor so there's no way I can grade your essay. Though I can equate it to sucking on lemons.

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So what is it that separates this from the similarly misanthropic Friday the 13ths and Nightmare on Elm Streets?


Open mouth, insert foot; Excuse me, your bias is showing. In actual horror films, there is a whole genre of torture porn which is your intended basis for comparision or rather, I would hope it was; Films like Hostel or later Saw films but these, base examples of slasher films, aren't them. Even the ones coming after the torture porn revolution have a certain amount of ... dignity. Is that the word? Respect for the "final girl", if you will.

Good grief, are you of the type who accepted the Texas Chainsaw Massacre as nonficiton?

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It's difficult to think of a reason to play something so callous, so malevolent, and so lacking in good taste.


Here's one: because it's there. Also, any review that ends with "and worse of all, it's in bad taste" automatically has me intrigued. Bits of data, pictures and words on a handheld system spurred you to write this. That's pretty damn impressive.

I love reactionary works of art, just to see what it does to the straights...
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:58 am Reply with quote
So uhm... you're complaining that a game filled with violence, advertised as full of violence, whos whole franchise if about lots of violence.... has lot's of violence in it? That's like complaining about a midget being too short.

I get that you don't like the game, and that's fine with me, but unlike an anime, I don't think you can give a game an F unless you literally, CAN'T play it. You say that it's needlessly cruel, but it takes place in HELL. What exactly would be acceptably cruel in hell?
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ElectricDork



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:06 am Reply with quote
I haven't played Book of Shadows but I have played through the previous game, and I have to say that while I wasn't gravely offended by anything in it, some of it was definitely in poor taste. I recall at least one shot of a dead or unconscious girl with her panties showing, which lent the scene a creepy sexualized undertone, and I could definitely have done without the infantilized, weak-bladdered 14 year-old (and indeed the spoiler[bad ending in which she confesses her love for her brother).]

There was also something about the buttering up of poopers, but that was more weird than anything.

But I did enjoy the game. I didn't enjoy seeing and reading in gruesome detail about young girls or boys being killed, but I was determined to reach the best ending and lead to safety as many of the kids that the story allowed to live. I thought it was an interesting blend of horror and adventure.
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:00 am Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:
So uhm... you're complaining that a game filled with violence, advertised as full of violence, whos whole franchise if about lots of violence.... has lot's of violence in it? That's like complaining about a midget being too short.

I get that you don't like the game, and that's fine with me, but unlike an anime, I don't think you can give a game an F unless you literally, CAN'T play it. You say that it's needlessly cruel, but it takes place in HELL. What exactly would be acceptably cruel in hell?


There's nothing wrong with violence, but in CP, it's just...violent. And the Ryona aspects are highly disturbing. There's parts where it seems like the game is trying to titillate you...with sexualized images of dead bodies. Dead little girl bodies. That's...unsettling.

This game is pointless. It's needless violence without any deeper meaning than "YAY, violence!" It's just kind of hollow and puerile.
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cloud8100



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:13 am Reply with quote
As much as I enjoy CP, yeah, the way those images can be sexualized is annoying. I can enjoy violence, death & despair without that thanks. So it would be better to have more of a variety of characters than watching mainly girls die for the ones that particulary enjoy it because they're young girls. I don't care much for when they pee themselves either. I always *facepalm.

On another note I always thought CP had great music.
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BalmungHHQ



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:26 pm Reply with quote
Corpse Party: Book of Shadows is a point-and-click/visual-novel style horror adventure game created to expand upon the first game by focusing on characters and scenarios that could have used more expanding upon, most scenarios being a sequel to the Time-Loop "Wrong End" from the first game's final chapter.

Due to the fact that it consists of several short stories, none of which revolve around getting the characters to safety (since the first game already presented that scenario well enough), Book of Shadows has no obligation to retell that story, so it instead focuses on building up its characters and create tales of horror and tragedy around their struggles and deaths.

This is what the game is.
The review here takes this essence, or idea of the game in other words, and demonizes it. Yes, several of these tales depict gruesome imagery, and yes, the deaths are described in extreme poetic detail. But this is what Corpse Party does, even the original game had its moments of this, because it's part of the heart of the series, and Book of Shadows' taking it into a more short story novel form rather than a RPG style story doesn't change that.

Basically, the reviewer doesn't like the deaths and their detail, he doesn't enjoy seeing these characters struggle through the hell the series creates. Viewing it as senseless violence. That is the reason for the poor marks on the review. And because of that, this review works well as an opinion piece.

However, I was hoping for a fair unbiased review from someone who could detach themselves from their repulsion, and look at the game for what it is: A series of short stories (with point-and-click gameplay) meant to expand up on the first game, followup on the time-loop Wrong End, and set up the upcoming sequel.

In the end, in my personal opinion, I have to say I'm disappointed.
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