Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2005-09-16]
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ChrisBeveridge
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It's from Noir. |
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Joe Mello
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So I guess it is safe to say that each week's contest has a cappy from the prize. I was wondering about that.
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Optimus Crime
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Thanks. I guess I should have figured that out, considering this week's contest...
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time_trapper
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Zac, I think you're time at Anime Insider rotted your brain. If I read a column called "Mr. Answerman," then I want answers. I don't want to read a bunch of lame formulaic Wizard-esque responses that do nothing but insult the people that wrote the letters. All it does is makes you come off as an dick and gives ANN a bad rap. Bring back the real answerman column that actually answers some freaking questions once in a while without lame attempts at being cute tacked on.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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No, actually, it isn't "anime like all other anime", it's pornography. Go ahead and send an email to Rotten Tomatoes or Showbizdata and ask them why they don't cover porn. It isn't a "genre I don't like", it's completely outside the realm of this website. "Flake of the Week" is supposed to be funny. This time it was funny because we had a letter asking me - a heterosexual male who has never expressed any expertise on porn, let alone gay porn that would have zero appeal to me in the first place - for advice on what the hottest gay porn was. Pardon me if I'm not splitting enough hairs or mincing enough words to think that there's nothing strange or kinda funny about that. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Ask John: http://www.animenation.net/news/askjohn.php?id=1167 A humor-free source of straight answers to straight questions. "Hey, Answerman!" is a letters column not unlike the ones you see in anime magazines, or in the back of comic books. It's half information and half entertainment. If you don't like it, don't read it. |
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v1cious
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EDIT ok reading it again the winning was pretty funny.
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ChrisBeveridge
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It's art! Or at least, that's half the belief in the hentai thread running over in the general anime forum here. So because it's pornography, it's... not anime? Or not like other anime? After all, within hentai, or rather as it should be called, adult anime, there's comedy. Horror. Sports. Super Heroes. Adventure. Parody. Heck, just looking at the stack I have right in front of me there's horror, comedy, school based love stories, fighting and the japanese equivalent of super heroes. The overall genre of adult anime is just as varied. I think it's anime. Just like shonen shows cover a wider range of genres within it. And shojo. And so forth. I mean, it's perfectly acceptable to hate and despise the stuff, though often it's coming from people who haven't seen an actual variety of stuff that's out there (I always recommend Sex Demon Queen which is essentially Excel Saga done adult) but to say that if it's pornography it doesn't belong in the "anime is anime" realm? Pokemon isn't anime! It's kids stuff and I hate that. Gundam isn't anime! It's giant robot stuff and I hate that. But again, I know, it falls out of the purvue of the site and that's fine. Very few places really cover it anyway. But it's not right to not acknowledge that it's just as much anime as everything else out there. |
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ChrisBeveridge
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Whoops, my apologies. I've been told my appropripate initial response to the column should have been "rofl! teh gay!"
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GATSU
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Chris:
The difference is he won't vomit(as much) if he watches other crappy genres. :)
Bamboo reviews the porn through Shelf Life. I guess maybe ANN should get someone who gets off on yaoi to be able to recommend it to people, but I think it's challenging enough for most reviewers to keep up with the mainstream titles. I mean if certain nameless sites didn't post about 5-10 hentai reviews a week, they'd probably have more time to be able to cover the titles most people are actually interested in buying. time_trapper:
I didn't see any insults in his response. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Look, it's not like I hate hentai or I have a huge problem with it or something, it's just that it's way outside the realm of this website and I thought the letter would be funny. Plus it gave me a chance to say "Gay, Answerman!". Frankly, there's a reason people don't consider porn in the same way they consider other film; it's designed with one purpose, and it generally has no other real value. I realize there's hentai out there that people claim has a "great story" or whatever but if the story is interrupted every 10 minutes by a prolonged hardcore sex scene, how "great" can the story really be? I'm a student of film, and if I were watching something like, I dunno, Citizen Kane and there was suddenly a graphic, extended sex scene followed by another and another, I'd stop taking it seriously. See my point? This is why I don't consider hentai the same as other anime. |
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ChrisBeveridge
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Mind you, I'm saying all of this with a smile on my face and no other intent. I just don't want anyone to get the impression of any kind of emotion over this, just a friendly discussion.
Gatsu seems to think otherwise though I can't remember what adult anime that Bamboo has read. I read her column all the time but like anything else, the titles do blur. While it's up in the air over whether it's the purvue of the site or not, I'll go with it not being under it because news isn't really reported about it but titles are tracked in the database just for record keepings sake.
To entertain? I know, I know, an easy shot. But it's true at the same time.
I see the point that sex doesn't belong in citizen kane. It's not relevant to the plot. I was tempted to counter with Eyes Wide Shut but then since you said you were a studen of film (not movies) I realized I really didn't want to go down that disastrous path that I've been down before in my years over at Home Theater Forum in the numerous movie discussions I've had there. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Oh, absolutely. I actually very much appreciate the discussion and your input, and you've raised many good points. The difference I think you might be overlooking - especially in the case of something like Eyes Wide Shut - is that the *point* of something like, you know, Dr. Assman's Busty Adventures Vol. 14 *is* the sex scenes. It might have a "story", but we all know what the point is. Eyes Wide Shut is not about the sex at all; the sex in that film has a purpose *other* than titillation. It's art; erotic art? Maybe. Kubrick had many reasons for making that film the way he did, and making something pornographic - that is, sex for the sake of sex, and exploitative sex at that - was not one of them. Furthermore, there's a difference between erotica and porn, an even finer line. Most of the hentai I've seen is porn, not erotica. It's a series of graphic hardcore sex scenes strung together by a storyline; if the storyline is "good", that's fine, but we all still know what the point is. And, for the record, film is not solely designed to entertain. It's like literature, and it serves many purposes. |
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ChrisBeveridge
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To make money of course. I must depart from the conversation though as family life has taken over (time for the eldest child to get to dance class) and hopefully someone else will take up the conversation and expand upon what we've talked about. It's a subject I certainly enjoy talking about in general since I believe there's a lot more shades to adult anime than most people really give it credit for. Just like a lot of people write off anime in general for being all about the sex, hentai is done the same way. |
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Mohawk52
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I think this discussion is a 1-1 draw. Zac is quite correct in his description of the purpose of any porn, and/or hentai. I fully agree with it. But having said that Chris does make a good point that to some, they are an art form that just might have a good story behind it. May I suggest that ANN continues on in it's policy of not delving too deeply into hentai but if the questions do arise (no pun intended) a link to either Ask John, or to AoD's hentai section is available?
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