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Levitz9
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While I do not support this bill in any way or form... I have to play Devil's Advocate for a moment.
This all reminds me of the big to-do that came up with Youth Ordinance Bill #156--same exact arguments, even: the end of anime and manga, the censorship of classic titles... and we never saw a series get banhammered until, what, a few weeks ago? Again, I don't support this bill. But, I don't have faith in it having much stopping power. |
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relentlessflame
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That ordinance was different in terms of what it was doing and its implications. What it was proposing to do in the first place was to regulate the way things were sold (and force adult labels on things), not to make things illegal and subject to fines and jail time. But that aside, the proponents of this law have also claimed that they're only going to use it to go after "egregious examples", but nobody knows what that means. And it's the chilling effect of not knowing where the line is that is the biggest issue, and has effects both visible and subtle on the course of the industry's future. (There were absolutely works that were cancelled, shelved, or withdrawn "voluntarily" because the publishers were concerned about being targeted by the Tokyo ordinance. And even now, out of apparent fear of this proposed amendment, we see various evidence of increased "voluntary censorship" by various publishers and other companies.) The whole objection is that the law needs to be written to be more clear and precise. If the police and state exercise their full-power as is permitted by the proposed law, it would indeed render a vast number of works illegal. They say they're not going to do that (for now?), but what's going to happen when the next people come into power? Or when some situation arises that causes the tide of certain opinions to suddenly change? In the end, you're probably right in practice that the amendment being implemented isn't going bring about the anime/manga industry apocalypse. But that's just operating on faith that they "probably" wouldn't go that far, not because the law does anything to stop it. And that doesn't even consider the more subtle impact "voluntary self-restraint" has on the industry's creative output. |
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Fluffifullness
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I honestly hope this isn't passed... This punk fujoshi likes her doujinshi - often involving teenaged characters - and doesn't want to see that killed by a bill that's supposed to help people. Never mind the repercussions.
There is such a thing as overreacting to real problems - maybe try focusing on something more prevalent? Heck, I don't know - improving the economy rather than attacking an industry? |
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classicjelly
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the death of visual novels
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firedragon54738
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Well if this passes it will do a lot of damage to the industry but it wont kill it. It just would be a shame that loli will be gone maybe they just just pool all that yen together to make there own island off of Toyko like in Dance in the Vampire Bund
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tcsavato
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The simple solution is to never impede on fiction. Doing so only opens the door to more censorship on fiction. The only part of this bill that has any goodness is the CP possession part. (Hell, even arguing with a few people the last few days, could be legal under certain and limited circumstances, tricky subject to fully take a position on).
As the opposition grows, I hope they kill it. |
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mckg1
 Posts: 287 Location: From Puerto Rico living in Japan |
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We will have to see if this bill actually becomes law. I honestly do not see the reason why some Japanese law makers are pushing for such a law. I believe that doing this will not help, in any way, shape, or form in reducing child abuse, or child porn. These are drawned characters for crying out loud!
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starstriker197
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this way call all anime fans and protest this bill from starstriker
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FenixFiesta
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I recall Go Nagai responding to similar laws back in 2011 through the creation of Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera, so does that mean he is going to have to make an over the top version of Cutie Honey or Mazinger next just to show how draconic and assinine these laws are?
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partysmores
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To anyone defending this law: If this passes, things like Elfen Lied, Ranma 1/2, InuYasha, Crayon Shin-chan, To Love Ru, Strike Witches, Full Metal Panic!, and plenty of others could be banned/heavily edited in Japan.
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mdo7
 Posts: 6280 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Yep, exactly how this is going to turn out for the future of anime. |
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revolutionotaku
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I've read up on Shintaro Ishihara for the past 3 years to see what goes on inside that right-wing head of his.
I've read many of his controversial comments as well as a copy of his anti-American book "The Japan That Can Say No". And let me tell you something, this guy is extremely fanatical & crazy! I'd recommend everyone on this forum to do some research on him as well. |
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Snomaster1
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I've been hearing a lot about this child porn revision bill. I don't know if this will do that or an attack on the manga and anime industry. If it is,that's not a good thing. It would be unnecessary and stupid. It makes me grateful that in the U.S.,we have something like a First Amendment that helps protect free expression. It's a shame Japan has nothing like it in their constitution.
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labmember001
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Most of you are massively underestimating what this law can do. Own a copy of Haruhi, One Piece, K-On, 99% of any anime/manga that has come out ever? You can go to prison for it. The law simply says it makes things that involve someone under 18 and are for "the purpose of satisfying sexual curiosity" illegal. That is soooo vague it could be anything. The tiniest bit of fan service could qualify under that. Now it probably won't do much if it passes, like the ordinance one, but it could. And it will give them free reign to arrest any otaku whenever they feel like it. Of course this will destroy the doujinshi market and otome road will basically have to close, but this can also be applied to the most generic manga/anime out there. I can guarantee any of you who own any manga/anime could be sent to prison under this law if it was applied as dangerously and rigorously as it could be. It is far too vague and isn't aimed at stopping child pornography at all.
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SoraChanShadow
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Yup it too bad. It like how politician in us wanna blame violent video games for school shooting, were there a zero chance of them being banned. |
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