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Zac
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:13 pm Reply with quote
PantsGoblin wrote:

I'm trying to tell others that you're in the minority and that most likely they will like Galaxy Angel. Although it will likely have little or no effect, I feel a need to do it as a GA fan.


So your point then is to tell people "hey everyone, don't listen to Carlo, the rest of the internet disagrees with him!"?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:27 pm Reply with quote
I didn't care for the early chapters of Baby & Me and was suprised it got a B, but that's just me. It has, in my opinion, gotten better in recent issues though. It's still my least favorite, but it has gotten better.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:09 pm Reply with quote
In Galaxy Angel's defense of appealing outside the moe crowd, my sister eight-year-old sister watched the anime at her birthday party/slumber party (which she invited all the girls in her class to) and they all fell in love with it. We go to the same school (it's preschool-highschool) and it's cute to see the girls in her class out on the courtyard at recess pretending to be Galaxy Angel characters. They even invite me to play, and I always have to be Forte because they think she's creepy. (They all fight over who gets to be Ranpha. It's really cute.)

Personally, I like the show quite a bit. I do like the anime more than the manga, though. I would've given it a C-.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:47 pm Reply with quote
I didn't like Baby & Me when I first read it in Shojo Beat, partly because of the story & art (looked too cutesy) but also because it would make me cry! But I kept reading it, and I've actually come to like it now. I think I deserved the B rating.

I also think Claymore got the rating it deserved. I read the preview of it in Shonen Jump, and didn't like it from the first page. The art looks like it was done by a drafter rather than artist, and there was nothing in the story or characters to hook you. It's definitely not joining my collection anytime soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:44 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
So your point then is to tell people "hey everyone, don't listen to Carlo, the rest of the internet disagrees with him!"?


Pretty much. It's not limited to the internet though. All of my friends who I have forced to see Galaxy Angel liked it also. GA being extremely popular in Japan also proves my point. As someone else pointed out, apparently the manga has been popular with little girls too (wasn't exactly the target audience, works for me though).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:33 am Reply with quote
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All of my friends who I have forced to see Galaxy Angel liked it also.
Did you later ask them after their release? You might have got a different opinion.

Back on topic now and the lips of the cover girl On "Life" just look weird to me. I hope the inside drawings are better depicted.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:42 am Reply with quote
PantsGoblin wrote:
Zac wrote:
So your point then is to tell people "hey everyone, don't listen to Carlo, the rest of the internet disagrees with him!"?


Pretty much. It's not limited to the internet though. All of my friends who I have forced to see Galaxy Angel liked it also. GA being extremely popular in Japan also proves my point.


So because you think it's hugely popular on the internet, and the same goes for Japan, a critique made about it is of COURSE wrong, and needs to be corrected to fit the same view as millions of voiceless individuals because having a different option with valid points is just a crime against nature.

I sat through an episode of Galaxy Angel, and thought it sucked. It was just more regurgatated sci-fi anime cute girl crap to me. Wouldn't waste my time with the manga.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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So because you think it's hugely popular on the internet, and the same goes for Japan, a critique made about it is of COURSE wrong, and needs to be corrected to fit the same view as millions of voiceless individuals because having a different option with valid points is just a crime against nature.


No, I never said Carlo was wrong. He's entitled to his own opinion and so are you. You, like Carlo, seem to misunderstand what I'm trying to say though.

PantsGoblin wrote:
My main point isn't to make you change your review or opinion on Galaxy Angel, my main point is show others that most people like Galaxy Angel and that you are in the minority.


Did you hear that? This is the third time I've had to say it. You guys really don't pay attention do you?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:57 pm Reply with quote
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What?

Do seriously think that I'm waging some personal vendetta against a certain series? I have better things to do with my life than go around muttering, "Mrrrrrr, I must kill everything that is to do with Galaxy Angel..."


No, but you do have a dislike for GA. It's possible to hate something without putting too much time and effort into it.


Dislike, yes. But bias (as you said in your original post)? Hatred? Get a grip. "Hate" is something I reserve for people that really annoy me, not abstract concepts like anime series and franchises. I don't appreciate being accused of emotions that I'm not actually feeling.

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etc. etc.

Did you hear that? This is the third time I've had to say it. You guys really don't pay attention do you?


The more you say "This isn't REALLY directed at you," the more it sounds like it IS directed at me. I'm just saying. I mean, if your real mission is GA evangelization in general, why are you doing it in a thread that's a response to a review that only looked at one specific volume of the manga?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:04 pm Reply with quote
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Dislike, yes. But bias (as you said in your original post)? Hatred? Get a grip. "Hate" is something I reserve for people that really annoy me, not abstract concepts like anime series and franchises. I don't appreciate being accused of emotions that I'm not actually feeling.


Ya, it was an assumption. Your very negative reviews of GA led me to believe it, so it wasn't without grounds.

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And don't give me that insinuation about protecting some "image."


A false accusation on your part. We're even. While I'm at it, I know he has nothing to do with you, but littlegreenwolf also made at least two false accusations about me. No, I'm not angry about it, people do it all the time so I'm used to it. Although littlegreenwolf's are far more off bound then mine (stating false facts rather then exaggerating a feeling).

Patachu wrote:
The more you say "This isn't REALLY directed at you," the more it sounds like it IS directed at me. I'm just saying. I mean, if your real mission is GA evangelization in general, why are you doing it in a thread that's a response to a review that only looked at one specific volume of the manga?


I'm doing it on this thread because people who will read your review will think "Oh, Carlo thinks GA is crap so it must be crap". And then they go into the thread for it and see all the other reviews from other websites and notice that nobody agrees with him on his opinion of GA. It's more effective that way and it would be kind of wierd to bring up a topic like this out of the blue. The response was a result of your review but the actual response was not directed at you. Why would I waste my time trying to change you when I have so many other people who are more willing to change?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:59 pm Reply with quote
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Patachu wrote:

A false accusation on your part. We're even. While I'm at it, I know he has nothing to do with you, but littlegreenwolf also made at least two false accusations about me.

reviews from other websites and notice that nobody agrees with him on his opinion of GA. It's more effective that way and it would be kind of wierd to bring up a topic like this out of the blue.


Littlegreenwolf is female.

I also dislike Galaxy Angel and know lots of other critics, print AND electronic, that feel the same way. Carlo isn't alone at all, and I would daresay your attempt to paint Galaxy Angel as some universally beloved franchise is more than a little disingenuous and flat-out false.

You're entitled to your opinion and I appreciate your attempts to keep the discourse somewhat civil, but you're very much overstating your case.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:18 pm Reply with quote
PantsGoblin wrote:
Zac wrote:
So your point then is to tell people "hey everyone, don't listen to Carlo, the rest of the internet disagrees with him!"?


Pretty much. It's not limited to the internet though. All of my friends who I have forced to see Galaxy Angel liked it also. GA being extremely popular in Japan also proves my point. As someone else pointed out, apparently the manga has been popular with little girls too (wasn't exactly the target audience, works for me though).


I don't like the notion of popularity = good. Everybody love School Rumble, Love hina and Happy Lesson, yet these show are lowbrow crappy to me. I don't get the hype on these series sometimes....but fans eat them up quirkiness. That's why I don't agree with the fandom unless I see it for myself.

It seem like the majority of animefan are less critical to anime that are cute/funny with adoreable cheerful character, even if the story has been done 100 times before. I like the critical review and there has to be bad series sometimes. GA just happen to be one of those series I tend to avoid.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:52 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
I also dislike Galaxy Angel and know lots of other critics, print AND electronic, that feel the same way. Carlo isn't alone at all, and I would daresay your attempt to paint Galaxy Angel as some universally beloved franchise is more than a little disingenuous and flat-out false.


When I said "nobody agrees with him" I didn't necessarily mean nobody agrees with him. I already know there's more then one person who dislikes it, I know there's quite a bit who do. You're right that I may be exaggerating about people who like it though. Seeking out other GA fans as well as going to Japan and seeing GA's popularity for myself has had an effect on me. Your belief of GA being unliked may be a bit exaggerated too. Unfavorable reviews will always attract more attention then favorable ones. It's possible that those were just the ones that stood out to you and just made it seem like there were more people who disliked it then there actually were. This thread is a perfect example of that. I do strongly believe that Galaxy Angel is more liked then it is unliked though.

darkhunter wrote:
That's why I don't agree with the fandom unless I see it for myself.


If that's how you think, you're going against your own rulings by talking about Galaxy Angel here without seeing it for yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:06 pm Reply with quote
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darkhunter wrote:
That's why I don't agree with the fandom unless I see it for myself.


If that's how you think, you're going against your own rulings by talking about Galaxy Angel here without seeing it for yourself.


I've seen tons of anime and I've seen GA when it was release. Just enough to tell me it wasn't anything special. The humor isn't as funny as many people say it is. Why would I say it's crap if I haven't seen it?

But I know your'e just upset because your *OMG favorite series of ALL Time* got a bad rating. So somebody doesn't agree wit you. Stop crying and get over it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:42 pm Reply with quote
There's only really one thing I want to comment on in your post. And it's only because I've been meaning to say it for a while and haven't had the chance. I also want to know your reasons for doing it. I don't want to start any kind of flame war so I'll resist commenting on the rest.

darkhunter wrote:
But I know your'e just upset because your *OMG favorite series of ALL Time* got a bad rating. So somebody doesn't agree wit you. Stop crying and get over it.


I find it odd how you always complain about people complaining. I actually find you more annoying then the actual complainer most of the time. I've never seen you solve anything by doing it either. And honestly, this is the first time I have ever had a complaint about the way ANN reviews. I'm not some kind of frequent complainer. I see you complaining about complainers all the time though. So what's your reason for this?
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