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v1cious
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what if someone actually got sued/arrested over this? that would be a first. i mean it's pretty unlikely, but you never know...
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hagakure|returns
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They're probably just after the fansubber, not the people that are downloading it. Come on now. Whatever happen to respecting other's people's property. |
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LordRobin
Posts: 354 Location: Akron, OH |
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Hey, there it is! The other shoe! Always knew it would drop someday.
(Or people figure the free ride would last forever?) ------RM |
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DaveJS
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I think Bandai made a mistake saying that they will prosecute people. This early on, I think they should have just asked that SSS and such not be fansubbed. I'm sure most groups will comply with this, and for those that don't, Bandai should ask them to stop, like what FUNi did (it was FUNi right?). After that, they should take legal action.
My point in short, by saying what they did, some fansub groups who may not have done it, will, just to spite Bandai. And people who might not have downloaded it, will. IMO, at least... |
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v1cious
Posts: 6203 Location: Houston, TX |
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yes, but see pretty much all fansubbers work through IRC now. |
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LordRobin
Posts: 354 Location: Akron, OH |
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So in other words, the honorable fansubbers of yesterday have been replaced by crass ordinary pirates. It's no longer about spreading anime, it's about getting stuff without paying for it. Good, we're clear on that. ------RM |
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HitokiriShadow
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Plenty of fansubbers use both, plus fansubbers usually have websites.
At this point, they are just prosecuting people who are fansubbing licensed series, which is fine by me. I'll be more concerned when they start prosecuting the fansubbing of unlicensed anime. |
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Yoda117
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yeah for those you'd have to actually write a slightly more complicated program to look around. ahh... it should be fun the day the anime companies start asking the blackhats for help. Well, most of the fansubbers say that they'll fansub something until it gets licensed outside of Japan, or they are asked by the company not to do it... I think that gauntlet been dropped. Last edited by Yoda117 on Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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TNaran
Posts: 17 Location: Canada |
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I think you're perception may have some problem with WHY fansubs exist. And PS it would NOT be for $1/$2 per episode. My idea is to legalise and monetize fansubs, and the iTunes platform shows the basic idea. Near simultaneous release with airing in Japan and availablility on a "service" (e.g., iTunes) with a service sub. The software would have the ability to create a plugin that would allow other people to create their own subtitles for the script, and it would be allowed as long as a simple copyright procedure is followed: a particular fan-sub translation is co-owned by the owner of the property and the fansub group under certain restrictions (Creative Commons copyright licenses allows this kind of arrangement). Also, the group allows the owner to enforce the copyright on behalf of the group making it easier for them to shut down eBay pirates. The studios, licensees and fans all win. Better idea: Every fan who buys an episode gets a $1 rebate/episode if they buy the DVD when released. |
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indrik
 Posts: 365 Location: yonder |
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Bandai's probably got the money and the legal team to actually pursue this if they choose to. I think it would be very interesting to see how a lawsuit would play out, and we might finally get some answers to all the fansubbing questions that people have been assuming answers for for so long. I imagine that if fansubbing hurt them that much, and if they were serious, they'd have a small group of people skilled in the use of search engines scouring fansub sites for their stuff. Who's to say they don't? Bots, heck, you've got to distribute somehow.
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Someone_II
 Posts: 167 Location: Right behind you, watching you as you type... |
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Well, bandai is already offering free streaming of some of their programs, even if they are only dubbed (fine for me, but some may object) so i think that's a start towards legal, company-autherized fansubs.
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AstroNerdBoy
 Posts: 413 Location: Denver, CO |
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That's not true. There are ways to prevent them from seeing what you are downloading, or to even get your IP address if you are downloading/seeding. Still, a preemptive strike like this makes me think the movie isn't that good, the licensors know it, and are afraid that if this gets out on fansubs, they will take an even bigger black eye financially from bad word-of-mouth. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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You're right, they should make sure the DVDs they release are totally 100 percent up to whatever your personal standards are before asking fansubbers not to pirate their movies and distribute them for free. That's a totally reasonable stance to take.
This doesn't follow any sort of real-world logic whatsoever and I'm not sure why it is you think this way. This makes absolutely no sense at all. Last edited by Zac on Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:02 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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hagakure|returns
Posts: 407 |
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Whatever happen to wanting to protect your investment/property? Bandai has every right to the title they license. Isn't it also ironic that fansubber want to protect their sub from being misuse or translation from being stolen...yet the stuff they sub are stolen. |
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konosuke15
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Heh, even though im not much of a downloader of fansubs as i used to be, i have to say Go Bandai! But, im afraid your warnings will be a little fruitless. There will be that one, crappy as hell fansubbing group that will fansub it anyway and release it in some manner for the masses.
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