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PantsGoblin
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It's one small scene that lasts no longer than 5 seconds. There are no other jokes even romotely like it in anime. For me, I never even really thought that much of it until this thread was brought up. So much crazy shit was happening, I didn't even really notice the scene. It would hardly warrent a reason for completely avoiding the anime and not watching it, especially if you're a fan of offensive humor. |
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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Are you seriously going to avoid a very popular and funny series based on one reaction? Puni Puni Poemy is hilariously good, and the context of the situation is so absurd and overshadowed by the sheer hilarity of Poemy's misadventures that unless you really think about it, you're never going to know it's there. Despite what some are trying to say in this thread: THEY DID NOT SHOWCASE A THREE-YEAR OLD GETTING RAPED. |
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Ramadahl
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That's fair enough then.
They didn't, no. It's all just implied, and, personally, it didn't really bother me. P^3 is supposed to be a risque parody show, and anyone who's seen Excel Saga should have a fairly good idea of what it's going to be like. |
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selenta
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Wow, I never even noticed that "joke" either. I personally thought Puni Puni was much better than Excel, if only because Puni Puni was what I had wanted Excel to be like. Excel Saga was too slow in my mind to have such out there comedy, it's got to be as fast as the viewer can take it in, which is faster than people can talk normally. I'd never ever heard talking as fast as in that show at times, even from one of those auction guys (I don't even know what they're called).
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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Exactly. Puni Puni Poemy is the kind of show to ride the line between slight decency and complete indecency. |
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Cloe
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Please remember that this is simply your personal opinion of the show, though, just as I have mine. It's obvious from this thread's very existence that this material will definitely bother some people--especially young women sensitive to such issues, such as Jadress and myself. And considering we're good friends outside of ANN and I'm familiar her taste, I don't think Jadress's decision to avoid Puni Puni Poemy because of the reactions here is such an irrational one. |
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varmintx
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I thought the point of the scene was to show just how perverse our culture has become. In that context, it was necessary. I know, assuming there was a point to anything in something like Puni Puni might be difficult for some to swallow, but considering what the character was saying as it was happening, that is how I interpretted it.
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DuelLadyS
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I'm more disturbed by seeing people can have a rational, intelligent discussion about Puni Puni Poemy than anything in the show.
While I can certainly understand why someone would be greatly offended by scene-in-question (defintely the most tasteless part of the show's run time)... I, personally, have never felt there was an acutal rape of anyone. That was the gag- "let's just show all the girls heaving and panting with some suggestive-in-this-context-only photos. That's all we need to do to satisfy the perverts watching this." How could the aliens be raping them, anyway? They have no penises (peni?). Only testicles- "swinging ballsy!", if you will. Groped and assaulted, sure, there's a few second still of that later- but the 3-year-old's not involved (I think it's the ones over 18 they acutally show the aliens touching. I'd have to double-check that, tho.) So, to answer the thread's question- no, the three old wasn't raped. But you're supposed to be disturbed anyway. (And feel free to rip apart my conclusion, there's not much point in defending a show that tries so hard to be offensive.  )
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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My bolded text was not an opinion. It was a fact. They were not showcasing toddlercon rape. As for how the material applies to you, if one is easily disturbed by highly offensive material like that, then why were they watching Puni Puni Poemy in the first place? The show advertises itself as something incredibly perverted and flat-out obscene. In addition, I do believe that people's over-analysis of the show's certain elements is really unnecessary. Why is no one freaking out over the Futaba's underage lesbian sex fantasies? Why say nothing about the fairly extreme violence of Poemy stabbing herself in the constantly bleeding knees with pencils?
It wasn't the aliens raping from what I can remember. I'm fairly certain it was K that was doing the raping, as he was a tentacle monster, and as many very well know, tentacle rape is a very common theme amongst ecchi. You know what. I'm going to rewatch the end of episode 2 and see if I can make more sense of this. I haven't watched Puni Puni Poemy is almost 2 years. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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I was asking my friend recently why Japanese are so fascinated with tentacles (or whatever it was supposed to be in the show), and it's because they don't have to be censored since they are not penises. I guess that's part of the rationale that the creators came up with that violating a 3yr old's body was deemed more acceptable than if it was actual rape. Plus since nothing graphic was actually shown I guess that made it even more acceptable in their minds. In essence they depended on playing off the veiwers [dirty] imaginations to get the most offensive effect possible with the least amount of visual information. But I still don't think anyone should deny this as being a sexual act. Tentacles are not penises and monsters/aliens aren't human (which actually makes it worse) but a tounge also isn't a penis and we still call it "oral sex".
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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Umm... I've seen quite a few censored tentacles in various doujin, but I don't know whether or not doujin fall into this category. I don't know why people seem to believe that 3-yr old rape is okay in the eyes of PPP's creators. Does Shinichi Watanabe seem like the kind of man that would direct something glorifying child pornography? Give the people a little more respect than that. Edit: I just watched the scene where the rape occurs. While it's certainly an "Oh god, I can't believe they just did that", the 3-yr old's "rape" doesn't look like much of anything. She's in a cage, she's not bound, she's not even struggling. If anything, she looks like she's crying over the rape of her sisters and the shocking site of the obscenity. Seriously, there's not much else to it. I don't see what all the fuss is about. At worst, it's the creators going "Oh yeah, we went there", leaving the viewer with an "I don't know what just happened, but I feel so dirty.  Nabeshin, you card!" It also happens so late in the OVA, how can you have gotten that far without any negative reaction and then SUDDENLY be hit with an emotional breakdown upon viewing something that, when stretched beyond the realms of fantasy, hits close to home? Maybe I don't understand because it's never happened to me, but it's just a television with no baring on reality. The assocation is the fault of the viewer, not the fault of the viewed material. It has a 17+ rating with a full warning that basically says "This is full of offensive material! Unless you're mature enough to acknowledge and deal with it without letting it get to you, don't watch it! ^__^" In addition, when the anime ended, it's not like the actresses went home, dwelling on the psychological aspects of the scenes they participated in. They aren't real, and neither was their situation. You guys need not read so far into these things.
My analysis: No. The little girl did not get raped. She was being traumatized in an INCREDIBLY absurd situation. And still... no one attacks any sexual scene regarding Futaba? |
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cheezisgoooood
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I fail to understand why anyone would be having a serious conversation about anything having to do with Puni Puni Poemy. It's a relentlessly offensive satire on HENTAI. What more is there to say?
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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We are on the same page. |
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omar235
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I agree, theres not much to say about it except this: there was no three year old raped in this anime...I went and watched that part three times and it just looks like she's crying cause her sisters are getting raped (this is also implied)...I am pretty sure we can all agree on that...course I suppose one could say it was implied. But really how far is too far, I mean a three old in a cage watching her sisters being raped (implied)...Well its all in good fun anyways.
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crow-kun
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I saw the scene in question and nothing happened to the little girl. Nothing happened to any of them. On a side note Shinichi Watanabe kicksass.
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