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Hui
Joined: 02 Jan 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:47 am
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video games don't kill people, anime does!
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Koast
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:08 am
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To be honest I'm surprised and not surprised at the same time, that is surprised that it was aired and not surprised. Normally Japanese networks are very honest about when it comes to what they're doing with their programming.
And it Is odd that kids would take this action, but their parents must be doing something wrong to make them go insane, I mean that's probably the most likely explanation in my head, of course I just don't know But yes, stop leaving axes around the house! I mean... Why? It would make more sense if they had guns honestly, but axes..? I guess I don't know if these places are located in cities or not... but you gotta figure that is odd.. and the weapon that Rena "uses" most often looks more like a meat cleaver to me.. but then again I don't know that much about knives and stuff. Then again I suppose kids could just got out and buy them from a home hardware store or something..
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Kenotic
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:01 am
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Desslar wrote: | So do the heroes of this series chop their parents' heads off? |
actually....
One of the female leads ends up killing her father's girlfriend who is using him for his money. Her friends then help hide the dismembered body - but this is in the first series.
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CCSYueh
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:09 am
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Koast wrote: |
And it Is odd that kids would take this action, but their parents must be doing something wrong to make them go insane, I mean that's probably the most likely explanation in my head, of course I just don't know |
We had a lovely little murder here about 10 yrs ago where a teen with problems in a group home was given a weekend pass from the program, took his sister shopping with him at Home Depot as he bought the axe he killed her with. He also killed his grandparents, but I can't recall if he killed them first, then took sis shopping, or if he killed them all at the same time. He was caught driving around Vista in the grandfather's car
So, no, mommy & daddy don't have to be doing anything wrong. We like to believe there is some reason, even warped, for these things to happen (look at all the children-yeah usually older like adult children-who slay their folks for money) We don't want there to be no reason because then the randomness suggests it could happen to us. On the other hand, teens are seen as emotional-unstable little hormones waiting to explode if not in violence at least in behavior adults aren't supposed to fathom.
The 2nd incident failing may be why they didn't pre-empt, but jeez someone needs to talk to their kids more. A lot of folks are busy living their lives working & all & have no idea what their kids are doing until stuff blows up & then they look to everything else as an influence because heaven forbid their parenting skills are lacking. It's just not ALWAYS the excuse. The kids in question may actually have needed to see a shrink or at least the school counselor to talk out some of their issues. I know one would think watching stiff like GTO, Battle Royale & others the family structure in Japan is messed up, but I've always assumed those re just plot devices (happy happy doesn't make for good drama)
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:40 am
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DmonHiro wrote: | Stop leaving axes around the damn house people |
the first girl bought the axe with the sole intention of killing her father with it.
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mastertr
Joined: 21 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:31 am
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That is insane ;/. If it was a copycat thing I am betting that the guy was planning on killing his father for a while now, and after he heard the news then got the idea of using the axe. I don't think he woke up one morning and saw the first news reports about the axe murder; and then decided all in the blue from there. Then again, it might not be a copycat at all; and he just may be insane like the other chick -_-.
Regardless...from all the crap I have heard about Higurashi; I don't see myself watching it anytime in the near future ;x. That's some disturbing shicrap.
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chicogrande
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:07 pm
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UltimateSpaceLion wrote: | wow, this almost sounds like a premise for a tv show or anime.
"Across Tokyo, there have been numerous incidents reported where children have been attacking their parents with axes while they slept. All these cases seem to have no connection, but when Detective Kyosuke Nomura digs a little deeper, he may discover a terrifying secret..."
it could work! |
Somebody call Satoshi Kon!
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chicogrande
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:16 pm
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ANBUx3 wrote: | What's with these kids, seriously? |
"No direct link has been announced between either case." Says the article.
I say, except for the media link. It's no surprise to me after the usual excessive coverage that most likely followed the first incident.
In Japan's visual culture, the more intense it probably was. You read about it on the net, your phone, your email. It inundates your senses as the story is repeated over and over again. And then, if you have an already festering little demon in the back of your head about disliking your parent for not letting you text message your friend last night. <Snap>
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Koast
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:51 pm
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CCSYueh wrote: |
Koast wrote: |
And it Is odd that kids would take this action, but their parents must be doing something wrong to make them go insane, I mean that's probably the most likely explanation in my head, of course I just don't know |
We had a lovely little murder here about 10 yrs ago where a teen with problems in a group home was given a weekend pass from the program, took his sister shopping with him at Home Depot as he bought the axe he killed her with. He also killed his grandparents, but I can't recall if he killed them first, then took sis shopping, or if he killed them all at the same time. He was caught driving around Vista in the grandfather's car
So, no, mommy & daddy don't have to be doing anything wrong. We like to believe there is some reason, even warped, for these things to happen (look at all the children-yeah usually older like adult children-who slay their folks for money) We don't want there to be no reason because then the randomness suggests it could happen to us. On the other hand, teens are seen as emotional-unstable little hormones waiting to explode if not in violence at least in behavior adults aren't supposed to fathom.
The 2nd incident failing may be why they didn't pre-empt, but jeez someone needs to talk to their kids more. A lot of folks are busy living their lives working & all & have no idea what their kids are doing until stuff blows up & then they look to everything else as an influence because heaven forbid their parenting skills are lacking. It's just not ALWAYS the excuse. The kids in question may actually have needed to see a shrink or at least the school counselor to talk out some of their issues. I know one would think watching stiff like GTO, Battle Royale & others the family structure in Japan is messed up, but I've always assumed those re just plot devices (happy happy doesn't make for good drama) |
Hm, well I think GTO attempted to do more to help teens who were having family problems and give them a bit more hope anyway. But the trouble with teenagers and parents have aways been present in Japan it seems. In the past, about 10 years ago or so, I heard of rumors that a kid killed someone with a sword in japan and stuck their head on the front gate of the school. I'm not sure if that's true or not that's just what I heard. I believe the pressure's for teenagers are a bit too much for them to be "perfect", so maybe that's why they snap on their parents for unknown reasons. You are probably right they needed professional help, in fact anyone with those feelings should maybe seek it, (I just hope they get the very best help they possibly can, unfortunately it seems that's not always the case either).
I do agree though that the news probably does the "most damage" when it comes to these kinds of events. People are somewhat rattled but when they see them crying over about it on every station it gets to people, although this isn't the same as fictional shows which can be totally unrelated and violent, news shows take real people and put them in a context of a "dramatic" spotlight purely for ratings, that with others talking about maybe those who are outsiders at school, the odds of them teasing them about it are just as great as well probably encourage the "copy catting". It's probably a similar situation in Japan as well, so environment itself still plays a possible major role than media/fictional media.
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