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doctordoom85
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Yes, because Harry Potter clearly didn't take quite a few elements from prior fiction.  Also, I don't remember Harry Potter having ninjas, robots, vampires, mecha, someone from decades in the future, a tournament arc, an arc where they go to a whole other world, harem drama/comedy, epic DBZ-level fights, a mentor figure who's insanely muscle-bound and perverted, a missing father that the protagonist is obsessed with finding, etc. Seriously, the only real similarity is that the main protagonist is a boy wizard with glasses (and Negi goes to a HUMAN school to TEACH, whereas Harry goes to a WIZARD school to LEARN), they don't share much in common outside of that.
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Um, no. Scanlations take the actual content of commercially produced products and redistribute them for free. Doujinshi are simply based on commercial products. Besides which, the point is that drawing doujinshi is a common method for a starting mangaka to get noticed and advance into making an original manga. Scanlation is a hobby that does not directly benefit the Japanese manga industry in any way.
You don't actually read Negima, do you? Aside from Negi's superficial similarities to Harry, the manga is a lot more like One Piece or Dragon Ball than Rowling's books. And he only got to make Negima because Love Hina was so popular, so that's not even the reason he's rich either. |
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stararnold
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Seems like the times are becoming more tragic and dark for the Japanese media. First, the Youth Ordinance Bill, and now this crazy copyright change contemplation. What will become of the distinction line between intellectual rights and copyright in terms of anime, manga, and Japanese video games after that? This may even cause for example, future disputes between Yoshinobu Nishizaki's family and Tohokushinsha Film Corporation (current copyright owner of the 1970s and 1980s "Space Battleship Yamato" anime) in regards to ownership of the whole "Space Battleship Yamato" franchise as well as, lets not forget, future problems between Big West/Studio Nue and Tatsunoko Production regarding "Macross". By the way, the article forgot to reference how anime may be affected by the current problem as well.
Fight on, Akatsuma. |
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TJ_Kat
Posts: 368 Location: Saskatoon, Canada |
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no, that will never happen. disney makes damned sure copyright terms get extended regularly to make sure none of their stuff winds up in public domain. ever. |
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TitanXL
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Wow, this sounds horrible. Especially for the doujin/hentai community. I always admired that you could go to Comiket and find tons of doujinshi, eroge, and various 'parody' things for various series you enjoy. It was creative and led to a lot of amazing work
You have distribution websites like DLsite which allow artists to create art packs, fan eroge/dating sims, and etcetera based on shows like Naruto, Pokemon, Pretty Cure, One Piece, and any series you can think of to sell and monetize. Going by the amount they cost and the number of sales there are, this one artist made about $50,000 from selling one Hentai CG set of a Toei show called Heartcatch PreCure. To repeat, 50 grand for one set. That's more than a lot of people make in one year. Now, factor in the fact she does more than one set for this show, and not only that title, but dozens others, and you have thousands of other artists doing the same for thousands of other series, and you get multimillion dollar industry being generated through the sale of pornography of licensed works. Now if all that vanishes, that's going to change a lot more than people realize when millions of dollars suddenly stop changing hands. This is pretty big, all things considered. And this is just one site, there's various others, and Comiket doujinshi and etcetera. To say this is just an 'underground' thing is a grossly underestimated claim. |
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kuroneko2788
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Why do we, as a country, constantly feel the need to push our laws around the world? Japan can say no, and come up with their own laws, instead of agreeing to this multi-country consistent law thing. Why can't other country's just start saying "You know what US ... F off!" "We'll make our own decisions."
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jtstellar
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a lot of what you don't see is future creativity.. the steering of the world and how economy functions will steer future into lots of yet unformed paths. some of these paths will end up with a lot less creativity. though money might get to preserve in fewer people's hands who you can even argue were the righteous owners, a lot less work might get created in exchange. in the end, the same money will be chasing a lot less goods. that's what you call living standard decrease.
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scineram
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If this passes Comiket becomes illegal. The police will be obliged to raid the whole damn thing.
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Takeyo
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People should keep in mind that not all doujinshi are parody works, but, yeah, I have to imagine Comiket and other events and businesses involved with peddling doujinshi would take serious hits. And there would potentially be a chilling effect even among the original doujinshi creators if they began to fear repercussions of some law enforcement official deciding that their work is too similar to some previous property. |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
Posts: 2235 Location: San Antonio, USA |
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Some estimates that doujin works make up 30% of the ENTIRE otaku market.
That's not going to go quietly into the good night. On the other hand in the hypothetical world where this does pass, I'm not sure it'll be the death of doujinshi. Instead doujinshi artists will turn more toward original works, or will do work on properties that explicitly allow secondary works like Touhou. What it would do is to essentially take the money that the MAIN industry gets from doujinshi as a side effect and dry that up. I.e. this law would make things even worse for the big companies, and would probably cause a new influx of original indie works. |
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Touma
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Will this really destroy doujinshi?
Are character designs covered by copyright? If I made a doujinshi with characters who look like Kaname Chidori and Sousuke Sagara but never used those names, or the title "Full Metal Panic", and the story was completely original, would that be a copyright violation? What if the characters might be, but are not definitely, them? I am just wondering how different a doujinshi would need to be to avoid violating the copyright. |
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mufurc
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Yeah, pretty much?
Maybe, maybe not, possibly depending on how much money is involved. But the entire point of (non-original) doujinshi is that it's essentially a fanfic in manga format, ie. it's about the characters we know and love. Drawing a doujinshi about characters who look sorta like Kaname and Sousuke, naming them "Kaori" and "Sasuke", and placing the story in an original universe unrelated to FMP is... well, it goes against the whole point. When this idea first emerged it was the first time I was actually concerned about a law's effects on Japanese manga/anime communities. I was relieved when it seemed that they dropped the idea, but now... :/ I know that doujinshi are probably not the main target of the proposed change but I agree with Akamatsu, this would seriously damage the doujinshi community and by proxy fandom itself... and franchises that in a great part depend on their fandom for their continued popularity (Code Geass, etc.). Most companies don't act against doujinshi because they realize fandom's advertising velue and the role doujinshi and events like Comiket play in keeping fans' interest in certain franchises by strengthening emotional involvement. So they pretend not to notice the copyright infringement. (Especially as no-one is making money worth mentioning on selling fan doujinshi except for second-hand sellers.) But if this plan goes through, though, this balance would be upset, copyright holders would be removed from the equation and fans would not feel safe doing what they've been doing until now. :/ |
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UtenaAnthy
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I'm not happy about the way these changes would impact on the doushinji-making community, but also, am I reading this right that I might not be able to import anime DVDs and manga from the u.s. to the u.k. anymore if these changes are made? Because that is a seriously unappealing prospect.
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enurtsol
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You could still import. That clause is mainly for mass businesses and other factors. Basically, it shouldn't worry you. |
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Mohawk52
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I think he's more worried that all the H-doujin spinoffs will dry up.
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