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Mr. Toto
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There were some plot inconsistencies that made some future developments almost impossible to fix. Also, the direction was rarely faithful to the manga. As someone who read the manga before watching an episode of the 1999 series (and initially really liked the 1999 series as a whole), it's kind of clear that the new adaptation thus far has followed Togashi's direction and style much closer than in the Nippon Animation version. I also feel like the director really knows what he's doing when it comes to the series. Here's an interview with him:
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Looneygamemaster
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I've never read the manga or seen the older show, but I like what I've seen of the first two episodes. Gon seems kind of serene for a spunky Shonen hero, which I find refreshing.
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Darksorrow29
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@ Mr. Toto
Thanks for the info, I haven't read the manga. Maybe I should check out the series again after a certain point o.o? |
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calimike
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Hunter x Hunter Episode 16 did 4.0% rating last Saturday, according to 2ch
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Gon*Gon
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To a person who knows absolutely nothing about ratings and it's %'s....what does that mean? |
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4750G
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I've watched the first Hunter x Hunter but I didn't finish it. I think I stopped somewhere near Greed Island.
@Gon*Gon, sorry, I have no idea how to interpret ratings either. >.< Personally, I'm enjoying the new anime despite already knowing the story line. The best part for me is the fact that it moves at a faster pace. The first anime has around 60 episodes and covers until Greed Island, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't finish that arc, since I think there's an OVA for Greed Island. Given the pace of the new anime, it will cover much, much more if it reaches around 60 episodes as well. It's not like the new anime skips over vital parts that the new anime didn't - sure, spoiler[Kaito is not yet introduced in the new anime], but other than that, everything's in order. I for one look forward to new episodes every week. The latest episode's out, spoiler[and Gon finally got Hisoka's ID tag, although he was tricked and pitied in the end. Oh, I can't wait for the new anime t reach that part where Gon finally punches Hisoka back as payment for saving his life]. The first anime showed how Leorio got his target's ID tag, so I wanna know if next week's episode will show that or will cut to the end of the Fourth Phase. |
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Gon*Gon
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I'm just anxious about how well this does. I'm only watching this because I REALLY want to see Chimera Ants(Nefelpitou!!!!) animated.
lol, might as well finish it. That's like the end of the old series. |
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Megiddo
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It's interesting, because so far the 2011 version has covered (except for the first episode and skipping the sushi part of Menchi's exam) pretty much 2 chapters of manga every episode. The reason why I say that's interesting is that it took 92 episodes (TV + OVA, GI, GI Final) to cover everything till the end of Greed Island, which is around chapter 185. That's almost exactly 2 chapters of manga per episode.
I remember someone on the Madhouse production staff claiming that HxH 2011 will be the definitive Hunter X Hunter anime, but so far, that hasn't been the case at all. Sure, arguments can be made that is has been more enjoyable with a slightly brisker pace with I can't argue with. However, the first 15 episodes or so of the 1999 version are well-known to be the absolute worst of the series. If the 2011 version can only barely (if that) surpass them, then what's going to happen as it progresses further into the story? That said, 2011 version isn't bad. The lackluster BGM really does hurt it though. I'll be curious to see how far it goes, considering its TV ratings aren't amazing and the DVD/BDs are not likely to reach any Oricon charts. I'd like to see the Chimera Ant arc animated, but I have no idea how that could happen with the current status of the TV anime. The manga sells a million copies per volume still, couldn't they have just made an OVA again? Or at the very least, an OAD? |
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Spastic Minnow
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I may be getting tired of the show again. I had “dropped” it last season, but that decision only lasted a couple weeks when I decided that it was such an easy watch I might as well continue. But the premise of the Hunter Exams is getting to me.
People want to be Hunters, and the position seems to hold prestige and they are apparently considered to be made up of “good guys,” benevolent explorers and treasure hunters. The Examiners seem to be pretty decent at least and the general consensus of the examiners is that someone like Hisoka is completely unfit to be a Hunter... but is allowed to take the tests anyway. Yet the exam is open to everyone and is, especially the current stage, essentially a license to murder... murdering those that have proved to be the best and brightest, highly skilled individuals that have beat everyone else in the previous rounds- the sort of individuals that may be good people, beneficial to society even if they can't reach the level of “Hunter.” What sort of warped logic is this? What would an equivalent of that be? Collect dozens of the best soldiers you have, war heroes all, valuable members of society and defenders of all of the values you hold dear, throw in a few gangsters, murderers, and blood-thirsty terrorists and tell them all they're in a test and the winners will become Navy Seals... now of course they wouldn't actually let a terrorist be a Seal but we'll let 'em play along and if some of our best soldiers are killed in the test, oh well, that's just how it goes. |
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Megiddo
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Hunters are not 'good guys'. There is no morality involved with being a Hunter. You're free to do as you choose with the wealth and fame one gets from being a Hunter. Some choose to do good and others choose to do bad. Kurapica and Leorio both want to be Hunters for seemingly 'good' reasons. One to get the information on the Genei Ryodan and hunt them and the other to afford medical training so he can open up a clinic that everyone can have access to for free. Others use the Hunter name for bad purposes. They haven't really been introduced yet, so I'll keep quiet. And others just use the Hunter Exam as a way to stave off boredom. That's more Hisoka and Killua's schtick.
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NegativeGate
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Well I caved in to curiosity and started watching last night and even though I read what everyone said here already, I was still surprised at how much faster everything goes. It is literally twice as fast, and while I can't really say its bad because it does get to the more interesting parts of the show faster I never really found anything wrong with to beginning of the other series that makes me say it is an overwhelming positive. In particular (I only just saw the third episode)spoiler[I felt that Gon's aunt simply exists as opposed to what I considered to be a very well handled farewell scene in the original series. Although I wasn't really sad to see the foxbear(?) scenes go as I didn't feel it was interesting as Gon comes off as overly sympathetic and caring with or without it.Also as far as the ship captain goes...nice face guy.]In light of that I wonder If more things I found interesting will be sped or brushed over in favor of a faster pace or if things will slow down once they get to material that hasn't been animated before.All in all I still like it, but rather than being used to bring in a new audience (which it can as the TC is this) I feel like it is better served as an easier way to re-watch as series I liked before, but I would still probably send a first time viewer to the original even if I won't watch it again because this is faster and my memory is obviously filling in the blanks for me anyway.
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killmyself
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I'm thinking about watching this after reading some of the comments. I generally prefer action anime to be faster paced. I saw a couple hours worth of the original on funimations tv channel I believe a few years ago and it didn't hook me.
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Mr. Toto
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This is a bit misleading for you to say, especially considering that the pace of the anime speeds up halfway through it. The first arc takes place over 38 chapters, but it takes the original series 31 episodes to cover it. The next arc, is adapted nearly on a 1:1 ratio. The pacing starts to get a lot better in the arc after that and it sort of perfects itself in the final arc of the animated series. The Greed Island OVAs, however, rush through the material instead. 61 chapters of fairly dense material are covered in 22 episodes.
Actually, I'd like to contest this. The difference is largely in the scripts. For example, remember how that warrior (Gozu) begged Hisoka to kill him essentially in request for suicide? In the 1999 series, Gozu approaches Hisoka for a duel but makes no mention of suicide. He's doing it because he is a "proud Bianu warrior," and has wanted to duel Hisoka since the start of the fight. Changes like this exist in almost every episode of the 1999 series, but it's especially apparent in the first three arcs. Try reading Viz's translation of the manga side-by-side with their dub (a good arc to do this with is the one immediately following the Hunter Exam--it's short, but gets the point across), which is actually extremely faithful in capturing the nuance present in lines in the Japanese version. You'll start to notice a lot of differences that alter the ways in which you think of the character.
The newest episode got a 4.0% and frequently graces the top ten most viewed anime shows during the week. As far as Nippon Animation making an OVA instead, that depends. Did you enjoy the Greed Island OVAs? That's likely how they would have adapted the Chimera Ant arc. |
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Megiddo
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No, what I said about pacing was absolutely correct. It wasn't misleading at all. I didn't say that the pacing was consistent in the original series, only that if the 2011 version continues at the same pace, then it will be nearly equivalent length as the first TV series added with the 3 OVAs.
I enjoyed GI Final, yes. GI? Not so much. I much preferred the darker celluloid animation that was in the first OVA though. York-shin was the best-adapted arc. Still, considering the 2011 version can't even follow the manga by showing Killua crush Jones' heart, how could you possibly think it could do Chimera Ant in its current state? At least in GI Final spoiler[it showed Gon getting his arm blown off]. And really, for something that is the "definitive" version, they should at least have gotten Kurapica's eye-color correct. |
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Mr. Toto
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Oh, in this case, then I agree. They'll be nearly the same length, but I think the material that they cover will be slightly different between episodes.
"Definitive" is in regard to the content, which actually has largely followed the manga more closely than the 1999 series. There are some deviations from the source material in the 1999 series that are difficult to even see without the text next to you. If you get a free chance, try watching the second arc while reading the manga at the same time. I actually think that G.I. Final is adapted the most subpar of all of the OVAs. Some of the problems consistent throughout the series sort of come to a head--like the abandonment of Togashi's visual style makes spoiler[the Nen talk very confusing, especially when it comes to Ren.] Not to mention that certain details end up actually being wrong/inconsistent with the rest of the series. If you follow along with the volumes, it's easier to tell how frequently pages of material are either skipped or rewritten. Though it's easiest in Japanese, since an official version of the OVAs doesn't exist in NA. Give it a try--you'll be surprised. I think both series have their good and bad points, but Madhouse has been doing an outstanding job thus far. Though I agree with the thing about Kurapika's eyes, the censorship of violence in the new series is likely due to the changes in censorship law in general in Japan. There are things you just can't get away with on television anymore, though I am surprised that Killua was still able to pull out Johness' heart. If that's the kind of censorship we see in this series, I think we're in good hands. The new series has also thus far retained many elements of violence that the old series left out, if that means anything to you. Give it a shot. |
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