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Vaisaga
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It's simple. spoiler[None of them wanted to deal the killing blow, and opponents who won't attack you are easy prey.] I had no issues with any of this, although I do think it's a bit unecessesary spoiler[to establish Kirito killed more dudes. I think what happened with Kuradeel would be enough by itself without adding to it.] |
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HaruhiToy
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Death Gun will be the least of Kirito's problems if Asuna ever catches up to how touchy-feely Kirito has gotten with Sinon.
As for Kirito going off-balance: I think it is pretty clear the unexpected spoiler[encounter was Laughing Coffin] forced Kirito to deal with issues that he had buried. Remember also up to that point he didn't think Death Gun was a real-world fatal phenomena. |
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Gina Szanboti
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So do these duels have audio as well as video feeds? Because that was quite a conversation to have on a public stage...
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princess passa passa
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I was rolling my eyes the entire time, it rang hollow for me. It's bad writing to just introduce WHOLE NEW REACTION from a character that he should have AT LEAST shown signs of ages ago. I feel it's a little too late to bring weight to what happened but I suppose I will take solace in the fact that maybe this arc will make Kirito more interesting... |
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princess passa passa
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I'm thinking maybe it has video feed but no audio. I refuse to belief all that went down for everyone to hear. I swear if they make him get with Sinon after alll he went through in the Fairy Dance arc, I will laugh but while shaking my head... |
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Vaisaga
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His past actions were literally staring him in the face. His reaction is far more realistic than you're giving it credit for. But yeah, real life is full of "bad writing." |
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Treeborn
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I get that they didn't want tospoiler[ kill him, that's obviously why they asked him to surrender], but for all of three of them to spoiler[simply stand there and watch as he killed each of them one by one??] No, no, no. |
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Vaisaga
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They simply paid the price for their lack of resolve. Plus, spoiler[killing people is what Laughing Coffin was good at. If that dude couldn't handle that much I doubt he would have last long in that group.]
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Dessa
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That's what bothered me, too. PTSD is a real thing, and I'm not questioning that Kirito has it. But for it to suddenly show up and affect him that badly, with that perfect of timing before his next match seemed too contrived for me. Even further, how badly him doing that threw Sinon off seemed wildly out of character for her, too. |
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Gina Szanboti
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But it's not like it was only PTSD or that it just surfaced out of the blue. He was directly confronted with his past and threatened with death by someone (who had just watched him play, so not contrived) with a reason to want him dead and who might just be able to do it outside the game. That's a lot to come crashing down on you at once.
I thought his reaction was quite believable, and I thought Sinon's was almost as (until they faced off at least). She could see that he was genuinely shaken and that it wasn't just the game that was affecting him. |
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princess passa passa
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I don't doubt his reaction at all, I think it was believable but I still think it was bad writing to not ever show us the viewer this reaction before. That's why it rang hollow. Perfect example would be when he was to log into ALO, why not show a chink in his armour then? All we got was him logging in and giving a sigh of relief when he saw the log out button. |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 6
I don't know what some of you are on about, Kirito has totally bugged out like this before. Kirito lost it in the incident where Sachi and her friends died, he suffered for a prolonged amount of time, and it seemed to resurface when Asuna and himself almost died. Later Kirito became a mess when he was facing the idea of Asuna being stuck asleep, passed off to some weird guy who smells her hair. Kirito is no spoiler[stranger to being turned into a mess when confronted with things he may consider his fault, and here he was directly reminded of when he killed 3 people he did not even know, for a total of killing 4 members of laughing coffin]. I have actually been watching Breaking Bad lately, so the trauma feels kind of familiar. Not sure if everyone is getting it, but Kirito was spoiler[going to let Sinon kill him because Kirito already qualified to go on, he seemed to have run out of steam from chaneling his feelings into frustration]. Sinon could spoiler[not shoot him because he was acting like a reflection of the weakness she has been trying to get away from (making her heart race), and it felt like she was getting the fight she needed out of battles to become stronger]. And the point of the dual was not that spoiler[Kirito could cut it, it was that there should be no time for Kirito to react to the lines, he predicted through her eye instead]. |
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Vaisaga
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He was panicing quite a bit when he couldn't open his menu. |
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ChibiKangaroo
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So the complaint is that the writers fixed a flaw in Kirito's character, but they should have fixed it earlier so it's no good? That doesn't make sense. If you want to complain about bad writing in SAO that's fine, but you have to at least be able to acknowledge when they try to fix something that needed fixing. This was an instance of that.
And as far as the examples you gave DuskyPredator, I don't think those instances worked so well because there was no build-up for them. Like with Sacchi for example, the audience barely knew her at all and her friends were all just nameless faces for the most part. Them dying meant very little in a narrative sense, so we had no reason to feel strong empathy for Kirito. However, this time around, we all know the seriousness of the SAO experience that gave him the PTSD, so there's proper foundation for this type of emotional reaction. Sacchi could have been similarly effective if she was a more long term character who died more at the end of the first show, rather than dying as early on as she did. |
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Dessa
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My problem isn't that the issue was fixed. My problem is that the timing was completely contrived, and how badly it threw Sinon off was completely OOC.
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