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UtenaAnthy
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I love The Cat Who Walked By Herself. And Vinni Puh (very cute and captures the literary aspect of the books in a way that the Disney adaptations don't, though I don't dislike those or anything).
If anyone's interested, I've made a list called "Excellent Animated Feature Films" on the IMDb. The majority of the titles are american or japanese, but there are quite a few from other countries on there as well. Here's the list: http://www.imdb.com/list/TS9pE0YRaDQ/ |
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StudioToledo
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Tezuka still got some credit in Astro Boy if only under "Created & Animated by", but yes, those were trying times (don't forget the mentality we once had for Japan making cheap products).
Much of it reminded me of pre-1960's animation out of Russia from Soyuzmultfilm. Toole didn't mention Nelson Shin's masterpiece that was collaborated between the north and south called "Empress Chung", though I haven't much good things about it anyway.
Most of us probably came in that way anyway.
Growing up in the 80's, cable TV once had tons of it on channels like Nickelodeon or the occasional artsy foreign short on HBO. There's always reading non-anime related trade publications like "Animation Magazine" which gave me a good idea of what else was out there, but there's also been books on the subject too. I would recommend this book... Cartoons: One Hundred Years of Cinema Animation by Giannalberto Bendazzi [quoteY'know, it'd be really cool to have a website devoted solely to animation. From everywhere. Of course, it would be a huge task. Really huge.[/quote] You can always go to "Cartoon Brew", that's a start.
Like those Turkish movies everyone talks about. |
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Sprocket
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This thread's reminded me of the 2003 Big Apple Anime Fest's Korean animation panel. They had lots of Cubix merchandise to give away, of course, and plenty of trailers for Korean cartoons, most CGI, but what stood out for me was seeing a trailer for a cartoon adaptation of the manhwa 'Hip-Hop'. I'd flipped through a few books of it at my university's anime club, it's a fairly standard teenage competition comic.
He was the overseas animation director for the original pilot of 'Adventure Time'. I don't know if he had to go to Korea to do it though. |
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TheAncientOne
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During the time I was a kid (1960's), my impression was that goods from Japan were perceived in much the same way as goods from China are now. |
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belvadeer
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I wasn't one of them I guess, but then again, this does kind of remind me of those really awful giant movie monster posters they made back then for Gojira in other countries. On the other hand, bad design and blatant copying can be two entirely different mediums.
Everyone huh? Speaking of North Korean animations, anyone ever see this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNR4kR1uC-w&list=FLN2oGASYesvWhUeElvnLHeg&index=165&feature=plpp_video |
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silentjay
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In fairness, there's a lot of genuine "man wha?" in the article. 
Ahem, anyways... I've been trying to track some of the knock offs for years now, ever since Mike pointed them out back in the Anime Jump days, but to no avail. |
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Kidnicky
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The Tron one is [expletive] hillarious. It's called Defender of The Space or something,and it opens with a warning that it's not to be shown for profit at movie theaters, libraries, schools, or OFF SHORE OIL DERRICKS. I swear to God it says that. The hero kills the villian by throwing his Tron frisbee at a TV screen the villian is being shown on. Really.
The Inferno one was fairly funny, too. These used to be at Walmart for a buck a piece in wierd little slimline cases. I bought like 10 of them, but I think I gave them away after watching them, it wasn't the kind of thing you rewatch like Star Wars. :l |
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NotintheMood
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I've been getting into Soyuzmultfilm lately! I adore some of the risks that they have been taking with animation for years. It's amazing how modern some of it looks. But I am bummed that after that fiasco with Films by Jove is hard to imagine another company legally licencing some of these works. ETA: and how cute is 'cloud bread' that link was adorable |
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dandelion_rose
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Oh my gosh, this has totally tickled my GoodFilms! lust. Well, it is true then -- when there's crap to go through there is so much crap, and when there is good stuff there's just so much good stuff to look for. In other words: thank you for the list! |
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StudioToledo
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He was the overseas animation director for the original pilot of 'Adventure Time'. I don't know if he had to go to Korea to do it though.[/quote] Given what role an 'Overseas Animation Director" has, often that is the case if they are sent overseas to oversee the production for the guys back home (usually these guys are pretty unsung in animation circles but they do have quite an important job to do anyway).
That's true, certainly one that takes a while for the image to change our perception of these countries (much like the way I felt about Korea too seeing their development over the years, a lot of their work back in the 80's could be seen as growing pains perhaps).
Certainly (reminded myself of the "Godzilla vs. Megalon" poster were they're fighting atop the former WTC in NY, even though that wasn't in the film to begin with).
A good example might be Brazil where Nintendo never got much a foot in the door in time before the pirates flooded that market with famiclones of all sorts (and often carts either in 60 or 72-pin configurations so it was very confusing there I'm sure).
That was one of many episodes in a long-running series that started way back in 1977 called "Squirrel & Hedgehog", I haven't seen the latest episodes, but it's quite an interesting series to watch if only to spot what 'countries' these animals represent. Here's a more recent episode... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS7Bje410D4
No different from Malaysian VCD's I use to pick up a decade ago (again, you had to get it in first and then you know why they put those warnings in).
This guy had a better grasp of what he felt the film was about (I see it won a Telly Award last year)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TqKyMXn9B4
Actually the Tron flick was called "Savior of the Earth" for it's English release. Many of these dubs were somehow handled by Onmi Productions I've heard, whatever it was, it was all distributed by HK producer Joseph Lai through one of his in-name companies I don't care to memorize (the one with the Godfrey Ho "Ninja" flicks).
Especially when the owners of said library doesn't give a damn with giving them a proper platform or treatment they deserve since all they care about is running a kiddie channel back home. |
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Kirben
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The Chronology of Animation web site provides a very useful list of animation produced worldwide, listed year by year. Clips and trailers can often be found online via YouTube or elsewhere, once the titles are known. It can be difficult to track down Blu-Ray or DVD releases with English subtitles though. I often find English releases in countries, outside of where the actual animation was produced. There was a Chinese Animation DVD Collection showing older animated movies/shorts produced in China, for people interested in Chinese animation. Although the video quality isn't the best, and the English subtitles could really use improvements (but are still understandable). |
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TitanXL
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Like StudioToledo said, it's not uncommon for companies to do that so they can keep the animators in line and answer any questions or whatever they might have while working on it; otherwise you're just sending them the storyboards with a note of instructions and hoping everything turns out alright in a few months Also, speaking of hilarious rip offs.. I think Brazil's got some of the best. The best part is they're dubbed by 4Kids' VAs, which adds loads of bonus cheesiness to them. |
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UtenaAnthy
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You're welcome! I'm realising that I've barely watched any animated films for a while, I think I'll try and watch 7 in the next 7 days to get caught up a bit (the last thing was a rewatch of Atlantis: The Lost Empire, which is decently entertaining but far from amazing as a whole, part of the reason I bothered to watch it in the first place was the fact that Joss Whedon has a story credit, I bought it for £1.99 in a charity shop, it was good enough that I bought it again so I could get the original aspect ratio version, secondhand and discounted as well, but it's a little slight. I give it 7/10). |
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StudioToledo
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Which I'm sure is pretty much starting to be the standard these days (most studios have stopped having an in-house staff for simply doing layout sketches that would be used for the key animation). Here's what I was saying earlier about Brazil and the unlicensed NES clones they've had. http://www.neswarpzone.com/brazilnesmarket.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ewuUYfSaU |
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Shippoyasha
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If you make a topic like this in most anime sites, it would have devolved into racist anti Korean nonsense. Pretty cool that ANN is cool about this.
As for North Korean animation, the sad part is that it is cut off from the rest of the world, much like everything from that nation. Also, it is pretty funny that the staunch Japanophile types barely seems to realize a ton of anime are drawn overseas today as well. Noticeably so from Vietnam and Indonesia. |
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