Forum - View topic

Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - The Seven Deadly Sins of Manga: Lust

I find that the occasional 801 release is still pretty hardcore. Perhaps it's because I'm unfamiliar with the genre, but the BDSM-themed Fallen Saint's Kiss seemed way dirtier than any of the DQ books I read, and that one came out a year or so ago. It's still my high water mark for terrifying BL porn.

Does Mayu Shinjo count as one of the dirtiest mainstream shoujo manga-ka here, or in Japan? Cause she's just one of the rare ones to actually get published here, and she's not even that dirty. Check out the other manga in Sho-Comi, especially Kanan Minami, that woman does nothing but draw straight out porn for teenage girls.

Ushio wrote:

and the USA wins creepier single digit girls explotation by a landslide with under 10 beauty pageant's especially the "dance routines" (Goes to throwup after seeing one by accident) At least manga is just drawings.

I agree that the 10 or under beauty pageant stuff is pretty creepy. I think that KnJ is able to get away with it because it is drawings, since the author can justify it because it's imaginary.

Ushio wrote:

and the USA wins creepier single digit girls explotation by a landslide with under 10 beauty pageant's especially the "dance routines" (Goes to throwup after seeing one by accident) At least manga is just drawings.

I'll call that, and raise you Toddlers In Tiaras.

As for a Japanese using KnJ as inspiration to do something to a child... you've got it backwards. It's KnJ that got inspired by real life teachers. Shit like that seems to happen a lot in Japan.

Quote:

I completely forgot "I Don't Like You At All, Big Brother" got licensed. There's no way I'll ever see a copy of that at a B&M book store ever.

I actually saw it in the flesh at a Barnes and Noble a while ago. I was completely stunned, myself.

There's more to KnJ than meets the eye. Don't get me wrong, Seven Seas was right to cancel it, but the other characters do provide a lot of depth to the story.

Kohii wrote:

There's more to KnJ than meets the eye. Don't get me wrong, Seven Seas was right to cancel it, but the other characters do provide a lot of depth to the story.

I also like to thank Seven Seas for canceling it. That's because it forced me to learn Japanese and import the original manga volumes myself so I can read it without having licensors and the obscenity police filter what's available for me to read. True story.

Sewingrose wrote:

I'm kind of wary of your comments on the publicity of child molestation, I'm sure many of the PSAs or attempts to bring it up where not that smart with how they handled it, but I do not see harm...

I can understand your position, but let me clarify: entertainment is not an appropriate form of education. If artists want to convey the real threat of child molestation through manga, then the entire manga should be educational.

I'm vehemently opposed to idle threats of sexual abuse allegations in a story. Whether it be a 9 year old girl screaming "Child molester!" or a 23 year old woman screaming "Rape!" when no such actions are justified.

To me, it trivializes and removes all forms of education because it's used as piss poor comedy.

I just want to say in defense of In These Words, I did not feel that it was sexy or erotic in any way but I'm not sure it was meant to be depicted like that.

Sewingrose wrote:

I'm kind of wary of your comments on the publicity of child molestation, I'm sure many of the PSAs or attempts to bring it up where not that smart with how they handled it, but I do not see harm...

I can understand your position, but let me clarify: entertainment is not an appropriate form of education. If artists want to convey the real threat of child molestation through manga, then the entire manga should be educational.

I'm vehemently opposed to idle threats of sexual abuse allegations in a story. Whether it be a 9 year old girl screaming "Child molester!" or a 23 year old woman screaming "Rape!" when no such actions are justified.

To me, it trivializes and removes all forms of education because it's used as piss poor comedy.

rinmackie wrote:

I just want to say in defense of In These Words, I did not feel that it was sexy or erotic in any way but I'm not sure it was meant to be depicted like that.

I didn't think that either, until the little four panel manga in the end, which suddenly gave me the unsettling feeling that it was supposed to be both of those things. I'm hoping I'm wrong...In any event, as a psychological crime drama, I thought it did really well. As for its second volume, I haven't heard a thing. There does seem to be one more single issue for sale on Guilt/Pleasure's site than was published (unless I'm crazy and there were 6 chapters not 5 in the book), so it seems they are going to continue with it.

*goes back, reads four panel manga* hmm, yeah. I didn't really read those. I thought they were simply gag strips, like you see at the end of a lot of manga. I don't think they're meant to be taken seriously.